9mm Charcoal Filter Brand Comparisons
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I use Savinelli or Vauen 6mm in my M.M. cobs. The Vauens are the only ones that fit in their pipes with the acrylic stems.
Never thought of putting the filters in the shank. That’s what has been holding me back from getting Forever Stems - the fact they won’t accommodate filters.
Never thought of putting the filters in the shank. That’s what has been holding me back from getting Forever Stems - the fact they won’t accommodate filters.
Will this work in any other filtered M.M. pipes? With the filter in the shank, do they still smoke well?
Yes, as far as I know that's the only place to put the filter. They smoke like any other filtered pipe. I only have the Mark Twain so I assume so but don't have actual experience. I only smoke the cob occasionally when I want a semi-churchwarden experience with the long forever stem. Its actually a bit small for me. Most of my pipes are on the larger size. 20-22mm x 42mm, 46mm, 52.5mm, and 55mm depth. Don't bother looking for a stem that fits and takes filters ... I went down that rabbit hole and its empty !
To better answer your question I just loaded up the Mark Twain with long forever stem with a 6mm Vauen Dr. Perl Jr. tiny filter (shorter than Savinelli) and some Sutliff 507-C Navy Flake and smoked it outside but in a 14 mph wind so YMMV. There is plenty of room around the filter in the shank and you can move the filter back and forth with suction. So I would say that it is not 100% effective given the room around the filter... maybe 75-85% ??? As for the smoke ... it was a little hotter and had the very slightest bite compared to my briars with tighter fit. There was no noticeable restriction on the draw at all. Still wide open. But not at all unpleasant. I suspect the wind was the factor regarding heat and bite. Also I forgot to put on a rubber bit and I haven't clenched a straight acrylic stem in about 6 months so now I realize I prefer bits. I don't think you'll have a problem if you try it. I did notice more and a different flavor out of the cob but it might be slightly ghosted from prior virginia or english blends. I haven't smoked it since spring. It was a good flavorful smoke but I packed too light and smoked too quick but those are my errors not yours. Try it and see. Hope this helps in some way. All the best. There really is no such thing as a bad smoke !
Really appreciate you sharing your experiences. I made my own 9mm Churchwarden cob out of an elf cobbit. Bought a 9mm acrylic Churchwarden stem off Amazon. It actually fit the cobbit shank well.
QUOTE_ "when I want a semi-churchwarden experience with the long forever stem" ...
Greetings !
My semi or demi CHURCHWARDEN with a 9mm is a Peterson Bard. It has been discontinued, but for the filtered version, one needs to look to Europe.
I have a rusticated 69 9mm , as seen below. I think it is the closest one might get to a filtered Churchwarden.
Good looking & I like the way it smokes, but it is the rare fishtail as I usually smoke Peterson p-lips.
Look at what they have here- A good store I have purchased from in the past.
www.cigarworld.de
For more info - Mark Irwin writes about The Bard pipe here- it is a good read and might be helpful for your decision.
petersonpipenotes.org
This is the one I own. Again, I LIKE it
Greetings !
My semi or demi CHURCHWARDEN with a 9mm is a Peterson Bard. It has been discontinued, but for the filtered version, one needs to look to Europe.
I have a rusticated 69 9mm , as seen below. I think it is the closest one might get to a filtered Churchwarden.
Good looking & I like the way it smokes, but it is the rare fishtail as I usually smoke Peterson p-lips.
Look at what they have here- A good store I have purchased from in the past.
Buy Peterson Bard pipes | Cigarworld
Peterson Bard pipes at Cigarworld.de ✓ One of Europe's largest selection of pipes ✓ express shipping » Click here to visit the store!
www.cigarworld.de
For more info - Mark Irwin writes about The Bard pipe here- it is a good read and might be helpful for your decision.
Bard – Peterson Pipe Notes
petersonpipenotes.org
This is the one I own. Again, I LIKE it
Measurements
& Other Details
- Length: 177.78mm
- Weight: 49.50g
- Bowl Height: 47.29mm
- Chamber Depth: 40.10mm
- Chamber Diameter: 19.94mm
- Outside Diameter: 35.24mm
- Stem Material: Acrylic
- Filter: 9mm
- Shape: Bent Billiard
- Finish: Rusticated
- Material: Briar
- Country: Ireland
I’ve been told that the Meerschaum filters don’t mute flavors like the charcoal, so I’ve ordered some White Elephant...
These are 6mm for my Savinelli Trevi Rusticated 320. I bought this pipe to start testing out filters, as the roof of my mouth gets irritated with some blends.
I’ll report back when they arrive…
These are 6mm for my Savinelli Trevi Rusticated 320. I bought this pipe to start testing out filters, as the roof of my mouth gets irritated with some blends.
I’ll report back when they arrive…
Thanks for the tip. Vauen 6mm are a bit snug. 9mm Vauen filters are what I use when smoking Aeros to cut down the moisture. I am a wet smoker anyway.
They are too tight for the stock stems, which is why you should order a handful of the Danish bits which come standard on the Let Freedom Ring and Diplomat. The Danish bits fit a 6mm charcoal filter perfectly and also hold a rubber pipe bit perfectly. Def worth a few dollars for the upgrade.
You'll want to use the Perls and not the Savinellis which are too long for the shank.
I've tried them all over the years and found I like the Stanwell 9mm carbon, the best. They're a bit dearer but I think they're worth it.
They look like the Blitz filters. Wonder if they are made by the same manufacturer? On the Sutliff site, Blitz filters are said to be made by Brigham.
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I rarely use them anymore but when I did the Vauens were the best economical option. The White Elephant meer filters were kind of cool but I had a hard time justifying their cost for the improved performance over the Vauens, if there was any.
When it comes to charcoal filters I wouldn't mess around with anything other than Vauens honestly. The Germans have pretty tight regulations on things like this and if you're using a filter for health reasons why risk something from the regulation wild west that is China?
As for 6mm, I just don't think it's big enough for a charcoal filter to work well. The draw even on an empty pipe was just way too tight for me. Savinelli's balsas are great though but obviously not the same as a charcoal filter.
When it comes to charcoal filters I wouldn't mess around with anything other than Vauens honestly. The Germans have pretty tight regulations on things like this and if you're using a filter for health reasons why risk something from the regulation wild west that is China?
As for 6mm, I just don't think it's big enough for a charcoal filter to work well. The draw even on an empty pipe was just way too tight for me. Savinelli's balsas are great though but obviously not the same as a charcoal filter.
Vauen, White Elephant, Jean Claude and Blitz are all made in Germany.
She ain’t pretty, but smokes well with a 9mm filter. Crazy open draw. With Blitz filter, it’s almost too open.
Now having tried Blitz, I can honestly say the are the most open draw of all the 9mm. Not even close. For a long time filter smoker the difference is crazy. Makes me wonder if they’re doing anything
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Watched a video on line where they are comparing stanwell to blitz. Consensus was that they are identical. That Blitz either bought the tech or are being licensed to use the Stanwell.
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Hi, That's exactly the pipe I was looking at when I decided to try the forever stem for the cob. The difference was E130 euros vs $23. The forever stem scratched the itch and I decided that while I liked it ... not enough to use regularly. Rattray's also makes a filtered billiard that comes with two stems ... regular and churchwarden. I would probably go with that one if I wanted one in regular rotation even though I prefer Peterson's. I don't know why they just don't sell the stems separately. They are not individually fitted to the pipes despite what they say and they are all the same size within type imho. (private gripe there!).
Handy info. If I'm looking for Stanwell and can't find them or the Blitz are cheaper then I'll get them.