5 Year Old 1792 Flake - Pruss' Snapshot Review

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pruss

Lifer
Feb 6, 2013
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On Saturday evening I joined a few other pipe-folk and friends at member Brdavidson's place for a barbecue and evening of relaxing with briar and bevvies.
For the occasion I pulled out a jar of 1792 Flake which had about five years of age on it. I only had about 8 flakes in the jar, but boy were they happy. Each flake had a nice coating of sugar crystals, and while certainly dryer than fresh 1792 from the tin, was still malleable and easy to rub out.
Tobacco: Kentucky & Virginia
Flavouring: Tonquin Bean and Whiskey
Cut/Style: Flake (Steamed & Pressed)
Aroma: The age and time in the jar seems to have mellowed and married the aromatics of this tobacco. The tonquin bean and whiskey notes have merged into a slightly boozy light vanilla/almond note. Overall, the flake still smells sweet, round, slightly earthy with a hint of spice and nut.
Drying: The flakes still have some bounce in them, but lack surface moisture. They rubbed out easily, and held their shape when balled up prior to stuffing.
Pipe: My gigantic S. Yanik figural meerschaum pipe.
Prep: Two flakes, rubbed out and then followed this process: 3 step stuff, final pre-light draw is stiff, like drawing on a milkshake with the top of the tobacco resting about 1/8" from the top of the bowl.
Charring light: Good expansion, nice full sweet notes fresh bread, molasses, toasted nut are in the front.
True light through first third: Compared to what I've read in other places, and heard from friends, this flake was a really easy going smoke with consistent round, full, sweet notes with just a hint of vanilla and nut.
Second third: Consistent with the first third.
Bottom third: A slight deepening of the toasted character, the flavours tended more towards sour in the bottom third. Still a rich and full smoke. Body of the smoke stayed full throughout the bowl.
I enjoyed the smoke, but am glad I only stuffed two flakes. The bowl lasted me about an hour and was a lovely accompaniment to a circle of friends. The nicotine was heavy in the blend, but I didn't repeat the same dizziness issues that I had with Bold Kentucky two weeks ago. I'm happy that the aromatic notes had married and mellowed while these flakes were in the jar. As they were, they were subtle and definitely accents to the tobacco flavour; fresh from the tin, the Tonquin bean and whiskey notes might be too much for me.
Thanks for reading,
-- Pat

 
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pruss

Lifer
Feb 6, 2013
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Thanks Booker.
I don't often smoke Lakeland or Lakeland style tobaccos. I shouldn't, in hindsight, have been as surprised as I was by how the casing/topping had dissipated or married and mellowed with time in the jar.
One of the things that continues to surprise me as I smoke a wider variety of tobaccos is that I appear to also be narrowing down the number of tobaccos which I cellar. That almost seems contrarian, but it's real for me. Right now I'm only cellaring Escudo, Haddo's and Tudor Castle. I'd cellar Director's Cut, but I don't have the funds to import it regularly. I have a good supply of Vintage Syrian in stock, and will likely add more, especially given that it has a short half-life.
But that's it. It is rare that I smoke something new and have to start adding jars to the cellar.
-- Pat

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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pruss, that's a great essay, more than just a review, so well-observed. I haven't tried 1792, but I gave a tin to a pipe friend who strongly commended the other tin that was part of the gift, but never mentioned 1792, which I took to mean he was not impressed. This aged example that you enjoyed had that extra dimension. I have so many tins of other blends "aging" right now, I don't know if I'll put a tin of 1792 in line, but when I get to buying more tins, I may try it. I'm still storing an unopened tin of Royal Yacht, another distinct blend. Thank you for this vivid, concise, and and engaging read. Is 1792 among the Lakelands with ghosting characteristics? Would it require its own cob?

 

pruss

Lifer
Feb 6, 2013
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Is 1792 among the Lakelands with ghosting characteristics? Would it require its own cob?
Thanks for the kind words mso489.
I can't speak to fresh 1792, so will leave that question for some of our colleagues who have more experience with the blend. I chose to smoke it in a Meer as I didn't want to risk a potential ghost.
-- Pat

 
May 31, 2012
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Great snapshot Pat!

:clap:
As much as I want to smoke 1792, because I do like the flavor and the N,

I cannot.
It is the only tobacco I've had an allergic reaction (or something) from,

my throat was very red with tiny white spots 8O YIKES!

and even my lips developed little reddish bumps,

it was weird,

and very scary!

I remember feeling irritated after smoking a bowl of it, then went to look in the bathroom mirror,

and I was aghast to see the rash-like stuff! :crying:
It didn't last long and went away fairly quick,

but I guess I'm sensitized to coumarin or something,

or tonka beans,

I dunno?

Does SG use real tonka beans or an artificial flavoring?
My symptoms were much like contact dermatitis I'd reckon,

this perfume blog post speaks briefly of it:

http://fragrancebouquet.blogspot.com/2008/02/smelly-facts-wrongfully-accused-does.html
Overall,

it was a very strange and unsettling occurrence!

:eek:

 

pruss

Lifer
Feb 6, 2013
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Mytown
Overall,

it was a very strange and unsettling occurrence
Sounds like high school.
I'd guess that it was the Tonquin beans. I can't be certain that SG uses the real deal, but I'd be a little surprised if they didn't, English tobacco blending regs being what they are.
Our old friend Wiki has interesting things to say about Tonquin bean... Primarily that it has been largely drummed out of food service applications due to the fact that it can cause nastiness in large doses. This due to its coumarin content, from which anticoagulants like Warfarin are derived. My guess is that your body didn't like the Tonquin bean extract... Or you need to pick nicer hotels on the road.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipteryx_odorata
-- Pat

 

mortonbriar

Lifer
Oct 25, 2013
2,812
6,140
New Zealand
Great review, its always nice to hear about the aged blend dynamics. I also find that the more blends i smoke the less I find the need to cellar, although my 'blends to try' list is still nearly twice as long as my 'blends tried' list...sigh
Isaac

 

jkrug

Lifer
Jan 23, 2015
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Nice in depth review Pat.
Good smoke, good friends and good beverages...sounds like a good time all the way around. :puffy:

 

papipeguy

Lifer
Jul 31, 2010
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Bethlehem, Pa.
I smoked 1792 exclusively for years. I always find it satisfying and I'm always happy to read when other enjoy it too. Thanks for the thread as this has always been a favorite of mine.

 

davet

Lifer
May 9, 2015
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Estey's Bridge N.B Canada
Another one to add to the must try list. I didn't think I would like any Lakeland styles but ordered some Condor thinking I could always pass it on but I'll be keeping it and have more on order. How would this compare?

 

mikestanley

Lifer
May 10, 2009
1,698
1,129
Akron area of Ohio
When you get it from a good batch, it's good

stuff. Sometimes it just tastes like dirt.Too strong for anything but occasional

smoking for me but I do enjoy it. May have

to pop a tin. Thanks for bringing 1792 up.

Mike S.

 

mikestanley

Lifer
May 10, 2009
1,698
1,129
Akron area of Ohio
When you get it from a good batch, it's good

stuff. Sometimes it just tastes like dirt.Too strong for anything but occasional

smoking for me but I do enjoy it. May have

to pop a tin. Thanks for bringing 1792 up.

Mike S.

 
Dec 24, 2012
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I always enjoy Pat's tobacco reviews.
Each of his tobacco missives has impeccable balance, with subtle notes of ultimate authority and papal infallibility, not to mention freshly-mown hubris and the lingering traits of thesaurus and echolalia.
I jest. Good stuff.
Peck

 
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pruss

Lifer
Feb 6, 2013
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Mytown
I am impressed you actually smoked that shit. And to think all this time I thought you were a pussy.
Were? Nope. Just an aficionado.
I always enjoy Pat's tobacco reviews.
Each of his tobacco missives has impeccable balance, with subtle notes of ultimate authority and papal infallibility, not to mention freshly-mown hubris and the lingering traits of thesaurus and echolalia.
I jest. Good stuff.
Peck
It's all in how one juxtaposes surreal and sublime, evoking meritorious sentiment through intention... And a long cool smoke.
-- Pat

 
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