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farmerdan

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Oct 26, 2024
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VaPer (?) Not really a review at all, just a first impression as a newbie. I had high hopes after reading some high praise for this blend, but my first bowl left something to be desired. It just didn’t really have a discernible greatness, and my mouth was a little bit like an ashtray afterwards. I’m new, but I’ve also smoked great blends and this one just didn’t do it for me. But I will be revisiting to try again.
 
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Chasing Embers

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Nov 12, 2014
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VaPer (?) Not really a review at all, just a first impression as a newbie. I had high hopes after reading some high praise for this blend, but my first bowl left something to be desired. It just didn’t really have a discernible greatness, and my mouth was a little bit like an ashtray afterwards. I’m new, but I’ve also smoked great blends and this one just didn’t do it for me. But I will be revisiting to try again.
Considering the age and the type tins used back then, it was past its prime a decade ago.
 
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BingBong

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Considering the age and the type tins used back then, it was past its prime a decade ago.
You raise a good point - the packaging and conditions of storage are really important. I saw someone popped a vacuum sealed tin of 1930s Chesterfields and found them deliciously smokeable - were Pease cans a bit so-so? I can't imagine some eras of SG doing to well either, but they seem back on track with seals.
 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
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were Pease cans a bit so-so?
The C&D tins of the early 2000s, really like all tins, weren't made for long term storage but those early ones really weren't. Storing and aging has mystified blenders as their tobacco was intended for immediate use upon purchase. Two plus decades is asking a lot from any blend but sometimes you get lucky. The only guarantee with aging is change, not always a good thing.
 

BingBong

Lifer
Apr 26, 2024
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The C&D tins of the early 2000s, really like all tins, weren't made for long term storage but those early ones really weren't. Storing and aging has mystified blenders as their tobacco was intended for immediate use upon purchase. Two plus decades is asking a lot from any blend but sometimes you get lucky. The only guarantee with aging is change, not always a good thing.
Although, don't C&D admit that some of their blends are "youthful" and benefit from some age? Uniquely among blenders, I have to observe.

This is a huge topic, really, picking out the hits from the misses.
 
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@farmerdan Sorry about our friends quick judgement. Did the tin seem to have some swoosh left in it when you opened it? Just because a container isn't best for long term storage doesn't mean that they don't work at all. Hell, Mason jars all come with a note inside saying that they are not intended for storage longer than two years.

That said, this is one of my favorite blends, but it can be a polarizing blend for even hardcore Vaper fans.
Do you have experience with other Vapers? Just trying to figure out your experience level., because when folks say that these type f blends taste like ashtrays, it is because they are smoking them too fast. You really have to slow way down with Virginias and VaPers. Like trickles of smoke.
 

farmerdan

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@farmerdan Sorry about our friends quick judgement. Did the tin seem to have some swoosh left in it when you opened it? Just because a container isn't best for long term storage doesn't mean that they don't work at all. Hell, Mason jars all come with a note inside saying that they are not intended for storage longer than two years.

That said, this is one of my favorite blends, but it can be a polarizing blend for even hardcore Vaper fans.
Do you have experience with other Vapers? Just trying to figure out your experience level., because when folks say that these type f blends taste like ashtrays, it is because they are smoking them too fast. You really have to slow way down with Virginias and VaPers. Like trickles of smoke.
Some of the tins I've been exploring have had an audible seal, others not. GLP seals have rarely given that swish sound. A few GLP tins of Tribute, etc have had rust on the inside of the can. The Haddo's had no rust. There's a good chance I smoked too fast. Certainly not throwing anything out. I transfer to mason jars and will come back to it later as my experience grows. Thanks for the advice.
 
GLP seals have rarely given that swish sound.
Despite this anomaly of some of their tins, GLP's tobaccos are famous for swelling up like inflated baseballs. Usually they are the tobaccos with the most audible swoosh when opened.
I also prefer Haddos when it's fresh, mainly because that is always how I have had it. I crave it so much when I get a few tins that I tend not to be able to age it, ha ha.

Try it slow... but it very well could be that you just don't like this blend.
 

sablebrush52

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You raise a good point - the packaging and conditions of storage are really important. I saw someone popped a vacuum sealed tin of 1930s Chesterfields and found them deliciously smokeable - were Pease cans a bit so-so? I can't imagine some eras of SG doing to well either, but they seem back on track with seals.
In answer to your question, the tins were not good quality and many them would rot from the inside out. Here's a link to the post I made in 2018 about the issues with the tins C&D were using, including images of corroded tins:
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
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VaPer (?) Not really a review at all, just a first impression as a newbie. I had high hopes after reading some high praise for this blend, but my first bowl left something to be desired. It just didn’t really have a discernible greatness, and my mouth was a little bit like an ashtray afterwards. I’m new, but I’ve also smoked great blends and this one just didn’t do it for me. But I will be revisiting to try again.
I've found those early Haddos tins, where the crappy tinning didn't fail, to be some of my favorite smoking. But, cellaring and aging tobacco is an unpredictable game, even with tins or jars the same blend kept under identical conditions. Sometimes you hit a home run, sometimes you strike out. Once in a while you get hit in the head with a ball.
I'm sorry that you had an unfortunate experience with the blend. It can be polarizing. Try a fresher tin of it, you might find it a better experience.
 
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OzPiper

Lifer
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I have only been back smoking pipes since 2018, so I have not much experience in cellaring and ageing tobacco.

But I have been cellaring wine since the mid-1970's
I was at a dinner recently where a winemaker brought in 2 bottles of chardonnay which he made in 1987. Both bottles were from the same case and had been in his cellar since they were bottled. So no questions about provenance and storage.
One bottle had minimal ullage. The other had a level 2 inches below the cork
Both wines were in great form - in fact 2 of the best Australian chardonnays I had drunk in recent years.
One showed lovely development and maturity - in colour, aroma and taste.
The other was altogether much lighter in colour, less developed and fresher. It looked and tasted years younger than it's twin.
And it came out of the bottle with 2 inches of ullage
Go figure.

I imagine ageing tobacco to be a similar crap-shoot
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
20,668
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Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
I have only been back smoking pipes since 2018, so I have not much experience in cellaring and ageing tobacco.

But I have been cellaring wine since the mid-1970's
I was at a dinner recently where a winemaker brought in 2 bottles of chardonnay which he made in 1987. Both bottles were from the same case and had been in his cellar since they were bottled. So no questions about provenance and storage.
One bottle had minimal ullage. The other had a level 2 inches below the cork
Both wines were in great form - in fact 2 of the best Australian chardonnays I had drunk in recent years.
One showed lovely development and maturity - in colour, aroma and taste.
The other was altogether much lighter in colour, less developed and fresher. It looked and tasted years younger than it's twin.
And it came out of the bottle with 2 inches of ullage
Go figure.

I imagine ageing tobacco to be a similar crap-shoot
It's the same crap shoot. Over the years, the effects of aging will vary, even with tobacco from the same order of tins, or bulk divided into jars, kept next to each other for years. Identical sourcing, identical storage conditions, different results. The only predictable aspect of aging is its unpredictability.

I have never bought specifically to age tobacco. I have bought because I wanted to ensure that I could enjoy the blends that I like to smoke. Blends have a way of disappearing without warning. Nowadays, manufacturers make substitutions at will and one never knows what's in the tin.

So I'm glad that I bought what I did when I did, before availability began to slide and quality took a dump. Aging is just a side effect of stocking up, and a very mixed bag.
 

PipeIT

Lifer
Nov 14, 2020
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In answer to your question, the tins were not good quality and many them would rot from the inside out. Here's a link to the post I made in 2018 about the issues with the tins C&D were using, including images of corroded tins:

Oooh, I have a tin of 2018 C&D CRF, this made me go have a look at it again. It appears ok, it does have a nice little bulge going on at the top and bottom. I hope it’s good in the tin for several more years. 🧐

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