2 Charatans Ken Barnes Would Like

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seadog

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Jun 27, 2016
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A couple months ago a friend of mine came into possession of 2 outstanding Charatan estate pipes, one an Executive, the other a Bell Dublin Supreme. While they're both fine examples of Charatan craftsmanship, the Supreme is a Masterpiece. I was then asked if I would do a restore/refinish on both, to which I replied.....Helk Yeah. Knowing the history and value (if such a thing can be placed on a Charatan pipe) of these pipes, I knew to take my time. In fact, I did the Supreme first, started at 10pm, worked all night and finished at 8am the next morning. These have to be 2 of the finest Charatan pipes I've ever laid my hands on, and like sharing the photo's just because. The top photo in each is the before shot.
Charatan Executive

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Charatan Bell Dublin Supreme

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scrooge

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Apr 24, 2015
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You are correct, The supreme truly deserves it's name. That is one outstanding an unique pipe an you did a outstanding restore. Both are nice an my hat is off to you. That's one lucky friend. Great job!

 

seadog

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Jun 27, 2016
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Thanks, he paid $200 for each, which I think was a bargain as both were flawless. Finish on each was worn from age and oxidation on the stems, otherwise not a mark on them.

 
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mothernaturewilleatusallforbreakfast

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They both appear to be nice pipes, but the Charatan Bell Dublin Supreme looks especially nice. Although, I would call it a Charatan Shuttlecock Supreme. :)

 

kenbarnes

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Nov 12, 2015
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Really great pipes. The Supreme looks very familiar to me for some reason. I am sure that this one was shaped by Joan Nicholson and I reckon it dates from the early to mid 1970s. Lovely piece. I am wondering if it has possibly had a replacement mouthpiece fitted?

 

seadog

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Jun 27, 2016
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Ken....it had the original stem as far as I could tell. As the trademark CP was stamped into the stem, but the white has worn off with age. As I had nothing white I could use to highlight the stamp, I had to leave it as it was.

 

georged

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I am wondering if it has possibly had a replacement mouthpiece fitted?
I'd say yes with a fair degree of certainty.
Here is a blow up of seadog's pic, and the molded blank that I think was used.
Checking the finished length on the pipe would settle it for certain. If it's three inches (plus or minus 1/8"), it's a rep for sure.
seadog: Stamps are not a reliable indicator of stem originality. They are readily available from outside vendors, and back in the days when every third tobacco shop had a repairman in residence, most of them had a full set.
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seadog

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Jun 27, 2016
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Wilmette, IL
George.....thanks for the additional info. But, I didn't say it wasn't a replacement stem, only that as far as I could tell. I suppose it should have had a double comfort stem. But I've also learned that anytime you think that there's a "given" about a Charatan pipe, some type of variance comes along that says.....not always. LOL.....thus...as far as I can tell.

 

kenbarnes

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Nov 12, 2015
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I tend to agree with George. As far as I recall Charatan did not use this style of 'flared' mouthpiece. On Supreme quality they would normally have fitted a DC saddle (post 1962-3)or a taper bit.

This is by no way a judgement, merely an observation and the pipe is such a great example of the glory days of freehands at the Charatan factory.

 

seadog

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Jun 27, 2016
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LOL...not taken as a judgement or anything critical. The stem never really caught my attention simply because something different and Charatan are kind of synonymous. So a different stem.....who knows??....and went on with the restoration. Never gave it a second thought until now.

 

seadog

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Jun 27, 2016
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Wilmette, IL
And I'll be sure to pass on this info to my friend who owns these Charatan. Always good to know, so you don't end up looking stupid....wink..wink...nod..nod....to quote Monty Python.

 
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