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ssjones

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Or "Why I Own a Dunhill 120"....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUNHILL-LC-SWAN-NECK-PATENT-PIPE-RARE-1938-/302118173262?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=ROc7FhD4HYnjGjKU17qaFvSHDT4%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
$2,200 reasons why I'll never own one, faded nomenclature and all. But what a shape! I can't recall the last time an LC crossed the blocks?
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Oct 7, 2016
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Practically a museum piece. A 1944 120 from the same seller also went high today. Same buyer, same under bidder.

 

beefeater33

Lifer
Apr 14, 2014
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^^ had both in my watch list....... just for the fun of it. I thought that LC would go for 1200-1500, never dreamed it would go to 2200. But you are right AL, what a shape!!......... :puffy:

 

ssjones

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www.ebay.com/itm/DUNHILL-SHELL-120-PATENT-PIPE-1944-/371772754593?hash=item568f620aa1:g:wjQAAOSwo4pYD5oO
Wow, that is pretty high for a 120.
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I thought that I had a shot at this "Lasieni"....but it went far beyond what I was willing to bid for that condition.

A Patent era Putney isn't seen that often.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Lasieni-Putney-London-Made-England-Putney-Estate-Pipe-/152298740830?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=ROc7FhD4HYnjGjKU17qaFvSHDT4%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
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georged

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Mar 7, 2013
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...faded nomenclature and all.
Not faded or smeared a bit when I released it from its impacted grime sarcophagus a year ago. The stamping was razor sharp, in fact, just not deep.
Meaning either someone takes shitty/blurry photos (which I think is most likely), or some absolutely braindead hamfisted fuckin' idiot dumbass decided to "shine things up" before TAKING the pix (which I hope to hell isn't the case).
http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/the-holy-grail-of-all-english-pipes-a-rarity-among-rarities

 

hmhaines

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 5, 2016
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That shape just doesn't appeal to me, but I guess that's ok. Not ready to lay out 2k for a pipe!

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
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And, George, you are right: the photography is atrocious! Way underexposed and then boosted to show some detail, but color balance is way off, and focus isn't sharp. But that doesn't mean someone didn't mess it up as well, unfortunately.
Oh, Lord, I came across this, speaking of crap photos:
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Estate-Pipe-MADE-IN-LONDON-ENGLAND/322315612024?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40146%26meid%3Dea792d03b8fb4753b429f18c70423c93%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D152298740830

 
Oct 7, 2016
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Hagley: " I have multiple patent date 120s."
Given these prices, I think it is a privilege to know the newest member of the Forbes 400. :)

 

huntertrw

Lifer
Jul 23, 2014
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The late Mr. Loring chimed in here, too, with the following, excerpted from his book titled "The Dunhill Briar Pipe - The Patent Years and After":
"While not given a special stamping, a third category of pre WWII pipes distinguished by their immense size (the largest ever to bear the Dunhill logo) should be noted. These pipes are known (but not stamped) as 'magnums' and were produced by Dunhill, invariably in the Shell finish, on an occasional basis from 1922 to 1939. It has been estimated that approximately a hundred to two hundred of these colossal pipes, easily larger than the largest post war ODA of Group 6 pipe, were produced, mostly in the classic three quarter bent shapes (extremely large versions of the "120" or "LC"), but also in a variety of billiard shapes (similar to but much larger than the LB, LBS, 'chubby' and pocket shapes), as well as in very large full bent, pot, and chimney shapes. At least with respect to the three quarter bent shape, if not other shapes, it is strongly suspected by some that the raw bowls were obtained by Dunhill from other pipe makers including BBB."

 

georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
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Hunter ---
Apparently Dunhill, BBB, and other English makers were just buying the bowls from France the entire time.
I know a guy who collects "any brand" LC's. He has several dozen. All are virtually identical in dimension, meaning the chance they were produced OTHER than in the same factory is negligible.
Here's one that found its way to the Barclay-Rex shop in NYC years ago:
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beefeater33

Lifer
Apr 14, 2014
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George- That shape above, I would call a 120. The LC's, to my thought anyways, are more rakish, and slender........ FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm no expert, just trying to learn.......... :puffy:
From Loring:

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georged

Lifer
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How curved the shank was depended on the "era". Some later LCs are almost straight, some of the early ones were downright swoopy-curly.
The one difference that's consistent between 120s and LCs is size. LCs average a full third larger. When in hand or side-by-side, it's impossible to mistake one for the other.

 

beefeater33

Lifer
Apr 14, 2014
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Well that makes sense...... They did change quite a bit from decade to decade.. In my minds eye, I always think of the LC as that 1927 LC above, third down on the right. I've never the pleasure to hold one in person............ But I do get all giddy just looking at those pipes in Loring's picture....... :D

 

dmcmtk

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Aug 23, 2013
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I thought that I had a shot at this "Lasieni"....but it went far beyond what I was willing to bid for that condition.

A Patent era Putney isn't seen that often.
Al, the Putney shape is a fairly short little pipe...
George, that LC shape for Barclay-Rex is too cool for school!

 

dmcmtk

Lifer
Aug 23, 2013
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Not faded or smeared a bit when I released it from its impacted grime sarcophagus a year ago. The stamping was razor sharp, in fact, just not deep.
Meaning either someone takes shitty/blurry photos (which I think is most likely), or some absolutely braindead hamfisted fuckin' idiot dumbass decided to "shine things up" before TAKING the pix (which I hope to hell isn't the case).
In the words of the Deer Hunter character Axel, "Fuckin-A Right". :wink:

 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
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I thought that I had a shot at this "Lasieni"....but it went far beyond what I was willing to bid for that condition.

A Patent era Putney isn't seen that often.
I have a nice immaculate 8 Dot version with stinger. Paid about $38 for it. I also own a "Blythe" which is the same shape in a rusticated finish. Also mint.
Who would pay that kind of money for a pipe that looks like a tank was driven over it?
Hunter ---
Apparently Dunhill, BBB, and other English makers were just buying the bowls from France the entire time.
Well, that's a bit of an exaggeration, George.
While British makers did buy French carved bowls and finish them, they did gradually begin to make their own bowls s well. By the time these LC magnums were being made, Dunhill had a pretty good plant going, though they never stopped importing from France, or outsourcing some of their production. It isn't like it was a secret at the time. I suppose the question could be asked who actually made these LC's.
Maybe is WAS Genod, who created this design, after all. Or maybe not.
In my minds eye, I always think of the LC as that 1927 LC above, third down on the right.
You have an excellent eye, sir!

 
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