1937 Horn-stemmed Dunhill?

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Lifer
Sep 21, 2022
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Looks like an oxidized rubber stem to me.

Agreed, with a terrible button. Has to be a poor re-stem, right?
He’s saying it’s genuine “bovine” horn and I see no reason to doubt him. I’ve seen his pipes before and he does the work on them himself even as far as repairing the stems. He’s got lots of Dunhills on eBay. I think he’s legit. But where’d the stem come from? He’s saying it could have been made by Dunhill during the war years. That’s quite a leap.
 

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Lifer
Sep 21, 2022
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Agreed, with a terrible button. Has to be a poor re-stem, right?
It is the weirdest looking button setup I’ve ever seen. It Looks
Iike someone stuck vulcanite on the end of the horn. IMG_7715.jpeg
 

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Lifer
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I actually do see lots of horn-stemmed Dunhills online from the 30s but none of them have a button like that.
 
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Hupp

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I can’t believe the stem is original. The orific button, horrible bend, and is poorly fitted to the stummel. I only have one Dunhill with a horn stem. A 1943 shell shape 71. The button is more like a vulcanite stem. It does have a vulcanite tenon like the one on eBay. I included some pictures.
 

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Lifer
Sep 21, 2022
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I can’t believe the stem is original. The orific button, horrible bend, and is poorly fitted to the stummel. I only have one Dunhill with a horn stem. A 1943 shell shape 71. The button is more like a vulcanite stem. It does have a vulcanite tenon like the one on eBay. I included some pictures.
That's a unique beauty, a real treasure.
 
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The horn stem with an orific bit (probably little or no lip) appears to have originally had a much more graceful line; its shape was clearly ground down to make the clumsy button, but the material was not removed in an aesthetically pleasing manner. I’m pretty certain if you followed the curve from the profile, you could envision the original smooth curve.
 

sablebrush52

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What a mess. The thing about horn is that it’s chewable. The pictures make the button look like it’s been glued on, and the replacement tenon looks off center.

This looks like a DIY repair, and an unskilled one at that.

I found the original listing, and will take a better look at the images later.

Why do sellers suggest that their mutilated pipes are actually a rare prototype? Ain’t the first time I’ve witnessed this peculiar behavior.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
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I took a look at the images zoomed in at maximum resolution. The stem has been sawed off at the end and a button glued onto it. The fit is poor, as the button doesn't cover the join and you can see the sawn face of the stem peeking out around it.

I don't know about the replacement tenon being Delrin. It looks like a standard Vulcanite tenon that has been sunk a bit too deeply into the stem. The stem doesn't line up to the shank.

The stem material appears to be horn that has been dyed black. It does look to have been reshaped as there is a pronounced "scoop" to the profile in one of the shots.

The chamber is out of round and an attempt appears to have been made to round it out, leaving the chamber decidedly off center.

If these are the result of an attempted "restoration", it ranks as one of the worst I've seen.
 
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