$16,000 Pipe
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True, True. I guess I don't have alot to say about this pipe. It is alot of money, but then again, I buy my pipes to smoke so......... for me, it wouldn't be worth it. However, who is to say what it is worth to someone who collects and doesn't smoke.
My point was that the Maxima costs LESS than the grape!
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You'd think that someone trying to get $16k for a pipe would show it to greater advantage. (And at least polish the thing.)
I agree, the whole name calling thing is out of line; hence my Moron / Presbyterian joke.
If I paid that much it would be for a collector item/investment, so I wouldn't be able to smoke smoke it.
A briar pipe is made from once living wood, touched by the hand of a master, carefully carved and shaped. It's a living thing, seems a shame to let it sit in a corner collecting dust
A briar pipe is made from once living wood, touched by the hand of a master, carefully carved and shaped. It's a living thing, seems a shame to let it sit in a corner collecting dust
The only way to see who is right is to see if it ever sells and for how much 
You two make me laugh, I personally do not think he'll ever get that price for it, $6,000 is probabley tops on today's market from what I have read so far. Some collector might snag it at the $16,000 if money is truely not a problem and they really know their stuff, but I doubt this "if" very much. With much respect to BB and Cort of course
You two make me laugh, I personally do not think he'll ever get that price for it, $6,000 is probabley tops on today's market from what I have read so far. Some collector might snag it at the $16,000 if money is truely not a problem and they really know their stuff, but I doubt this "if" very much. With much respect to BB and Cort of course 
This is actually a terrific thread, with input from both ends of the spectrum, and it gives a good lesson on how the internet has so altered pipe smoking. Who would know that a Nordh was worth so much before we had people to tell us?
While I'm being somewhat tongue in cheek saying that, there's a bit of truth.
While I'm being somewhat tongue in cheek saying that, there's a bit of truth.
I think Mike's points win the argument debate day. :clap:
Art is worth what somebody is willing to pay; Nordh's pipe is a worthy piece; and everybody has their own price threshold.
Art is worth what somebody is willing to pay; Nordh's pipe is a worthy piece; and everybody has their own price threshold.
I work in mortgage. Recently I saw a customer with three consecutive years of tax returns making $5,000,000+. What is he going to spend his money on? What will he buy that will retain value? Apple stock? Gold? What does he buy to show to his peers to demonstrate his success in life? There is a certain segment of society that has enough "fun money" to payoff my mortgage.
Every vendor sets up his own business plan, of what to sell, to whom, and at what price. His business lives or dies based off the wisdom of his plan. I have no problem with his pricing. I do question using eBay as the sales platform. A very high end store would be more appropriate. Christie (sp?) auction might be a better options.
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Every vendor sets up his own business plan, of what to sell, to whom, and at what price. His business lives or dies based off the wisdom of his plan. I have no problem with his pricing. I do question using eBay as the sales platform. A very high end store would be more appropriate. Christie (sp?) auction might be a better options.
Winton
So, back to Al's question, for all the opinion thrown about in this thread, there's not one swinging dick with a factual answer.
A question, what year did any of you first hear the name Bo Nordh?I remember reading something about the Ramses shape in the early '00s, before that, nada.
A question, what year did any of you first hear the name Bo Nordh?I remember reading something about the Ramses shape in the early '00s, before that, nada.
I have seen all manner of crazy prices on many things throughout my life. Back in 1981, I was working the biggest jewelry show in the US in NY city. One of my mfgs put a piece of jade in my hand that was about the size of a 3KT diamond, he told me the wholesale price was 60,000.00. That was back then, who knows what it would go for today. I looked at him like he was nuts, but guess what, he sold the thing at the show.
A pipe like this is worth what someone is willing to pay and that is all. There are people where 16k is like 160.00 to me and you, I wouldn't think twice about paying 160.00 for that pipe so if a person with those kind of means sees it and wants it, it is a drop in the bucket. I know it is hard for people to understand that kind of wealth, but it exists and the seller is hoping one of those people wants his pipe. I have no problem with a guy trying to get as much as he can, and I am sure every Bo collector is praying it sells for that.
A pipe like this is worth what someone is willing to pay and that is all. There are people where 16k is like 160.00 to me and you, I wouldn't think twice about paying 160.00 for that pipe so if a person with those kind of means sees it and wants it, it is a drop in the bucket. I know it is hard for people to understand that kind of wealth, but it exists and the seller is hoping one of those people wants his pipe. I have no problem with a guy trying to get as much as he can, and I am sure every Bo collector is praying it sells for that.
There are factors at play driving the price that go beyond the fact that it is a Bo Nordh. At this particular time, the prices of "high end" goods are up substantially across the board due to the arguably unprecedented economic events of the last several years. The below article is specifically addressing the fine art and collectibles arena:
Are high-end collectibles becoming the realm of the superrich?
First 3 paragraphs of article:
Adam Davidson has an insightful take on the fine art market during the current economic downturn. The interesting piece of statistics is that 11 of the 20 highest prices ever paid at auction for fine art have occurred since 2008, when the recession began, culminating with the sale of Edvard Munch’s “The Scream” for about $120M a few weeks ago. The short of it is: The fine art market has exploded during this economic crisis. That is because fine art does not follow the rules of the global economy. Fine art is part of the economy of a small subset of the super-superrich. Their economy is booming. It is a case of the superrich getting ultra-richer.
Another thing is that fine art is not good investment. You don’t spend $120M on The Scream hoping to flip it for $130M. No, you’re paying $100M for some paint on canvas partly to show that you can. Fine art is a status symbol. “The art market”–to quote Davidson–”is a proxy for the fate of the superrich themselves.”
Does this paradigm apply to collectibles? As much as we want to think of high-end collectibles as fine art, does the economy of high-end collectibles correlate with what’s happening in the fine art market?
Full article:
http://haxbee.com/2012/06/02/are-high-end-collectibles-becoming-the-realm-of-the-rich/
Are high-end collectibles becoming the realm of the superrich?
First 3 paragraphs of article:
Adam Davidson has an insightful take on the fine art market during the current economic downturn. The interesting piece of statistics is that 11 of the 20 highest prices ever paid at auction for fine art have occurred since 2008, when the recession began, culminating with the sale of Edvard Munch’s “The Scream” for about $120M a few weeks ago. The short of it is: The fine art market has exploded during this economic crisis. That is because fine art does not follow the rules of the global economy. Fine art is part of the economy of a small subset of the super-superrich. Their economy is booming. It is a case of the superrich getting ultra-richer.
Another thing is that fine art is not good investment. You don’t spend $120M on The Scream hoping to flip it for $130M. No, you’re paying $100M for some paint on canvas partly to show that you can. Fine art is a status symbol. “The art market”–to quote Davidson–”is a proxy for the fate of the superrich themselves.”
Does this paradigm apply to collectibles? As much as we want to think of high-end collectibles as fine art, does the economy of high-end collectibles correlate with what’s happening in the fine art market?
Full article:
http://haxbee.com/2012/06/02/are-high-end-collectibles-becoming-the-realm-of-the-rich/
For those who care, Marty Pulver site, Pulver's Briar.com has two Bo's for sale. One, rusticated bent billiard; sold on 11/28/2012 for $5,875, and it was smoked. The other a BoTang, is a collaboration between Bo and Tom Eltang. It is a freehand rusticated that is for sale for $12,500. Now Marty is about the most knowledgeable pipe reseller there is and he does not pull prices out of the crack of his ***. He neither gives pipes away or over prices them. His prices are fair and he usually gets what he asks for. It looks like Marty thinks Bo's pipes are worth big bucks and there are knowledgeable people who are willing to pay for them.
After reading all of the posts in this thread... I suppose a pipe could be worth the kind of money they are asking.
However; I took a careful look at all of the photos and a couple of things struck me.
First (with all do deference to BB) I don't think the grain is all that special, and secondly the drilling of the mortice shows that it was damaged "before" it was stained.
Even if I had the money to spend on a pipe with this one's pedigree, I most likely would not.
I am attempting to make no point with this post... Just making an observation or two.
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However; I took a careful look at all of the photos and a couple of things struck me.
First (with all do deference to BB) I don't think the grain is all that special, and secondly the drilling of the mortice shows that it was damaged "before" it was stained.
Even if I had the money to spend on a pipe with this one's pedigree, I most likely would not.
I am attempting to make no point with this post... Just making an observation or two.
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