$100 Grand for a New Pickup?

[Sam Gamgee]

We'll just have to agree to disagree as to that being a "fact". There is much info out there disputing it, but it is the "official line". And, btw, I don't believe there is such a thing as "fossil fuels". I much favor the view that oil is "abiotic"...but apparently it's still the official story that it came from dinosaurs.

There's a lot of perception management that goes into maintaining a belief in scarcity...just as with diamonds.

This topic is like all the other hot-button topics that'll never get solved, but as you know there is a ton of very unpopular research that shows we couldn't use up all the "fossil fuels" if we tried. There is simply too much of it there to be fathomed. Same goes for water, the "scarcity" of trees, land, etc, etc.

I always get cracked up when I see those compilation videos of natural disasters, etc, happening "all over the world." It's as if one can walk outside his front door and see the world melting down no matter where he lives. But then I'll take a drive out to the country (or even in the city) and life is just going on as it always does. All lies.

 

[telescopes]

This topic is like all the other hot-button topics that'll never get solved, but as you know there is a ton of very unpopular research that shows we couldn't use up all the "fossil fuels" if we tried. There is simply too much of it there to be fathomed. Same goes for water, the "scarcity" of trees, land, etc, etc.

I always get cracked up when I see those compilation videos of natural disasters, etc, happening "all over the world." It's as if one can walk outside his front door and see the world melting down no matter where he lives. But then I'll take a drive out to the country (or even in the city) and life is just going on as it always does. All lies.

The problem I see with this is that nearly all of our information is wrapped up in some form of political ideology that creates a lens that distorts and conforms all observation to its focus. I discount everything I read or any information that is held up as research that proves whatever. I do see patterns and these patterns cause me to question many things. I literally live one block over from Indian Wells. I see first hand how my neighbors with access to wealth and power are able to live while my neighbors down the road in Indio struggle for even the most basic of services. I can clearly see differences of living where some people are impacted by the toxic water and crops that surround them. I don’t need to read, watch, listen to any media to see there are real problems impacting one group of neighbors that seem to not impact another group. But if I listen to the media, on both sides of the fence, all this is explained away as so much of whatever. Therefore, I reject what I read and trust only what I am living. Every one else is free to do the same. But don’t quote me research.

 

[Sam Gamgee]

The problem I see with this is that nearly all of our information is wrapped up in some form of political ideology that creates a lens that distorts and conforms all observation to its focus. I discount everything I read or any information that is held up as research that proves whatever. I do see patterns and these patterns cause me to question many things. I literally live one block over from Indian Wells. I see first hand how my neighbors with access to wealth and power are able to live while my neighbors down the road in Indio struggle for even the most basic of services. I can clearly see differences of living where some people are impacted by the toxic water and crops that surround them. I don’t need to read, watch, listen to any media to see there are real problems impacting one group of neighbors that seem to not impact another group. But if I listen to the media, on both sides of the fence, all this is explained away as so much of whatever. Therefore, I reject what I read and trust only what I am living. Every one else is free to do the same. But don’t quote me research.

YMMV but I'm a firm believer that there is nothing new under the sun. The situation you describe about the wealthy vs those struggling is just the way it's always been and always will be.

The ones who want to control us distort facts for their own purposes. If I see it on the news or being touted as popular opinion, I just assume it's another lie in a long list of lies. I mean, who gets to decide what's on the news anyway? Certainly not me?

 

[brian64]

The problem I see with this is that nearly all of our information is wrapped up in some form of political ideology that creates a lens that distorts and conforms all observation to its focus. I discount everything I read or any information that is held up as research that proves whatever. I do see patterns and these patterns cause me to question many things. I literally live one block over from Indian Wells. I see first hand how my neighbors with access to wealth and power are able to live while my neighbors down the road in Indio struggle for even the most basic of services. I can clearly see differences of living where some people are impacted by the toxic water and crops that surround them. I don’t need to read, watch, listen to any media to see there are real problems impacting one group of neighbors that seem to not impact another group. But if I listen to the media, on both sides of the fence, all this is explained away as so much of whatever. Therefore, I reject what I read and trust only what I am living. Every one else is free to do the same. But don’t quote me research.

I agree with everything you said there. I would only add this one point regarding research, narratives, ideology, etc:

Whatever the subject or issue, we can choose to ignore all sides, and justifiably so for the reasons you stated, but doing so helps to allow one "official" narrative to be easily pushed on all of us which has very real impact on our lives. The very patterns you describe observing are in large part the result of "official narratives".

 

[telescopes]

I agree with everything you said there. I would only add this one point regarding research, narratives, ideology, etc:

Whatever the subject or issue, we can choose to ignore all sides, and justifiably so for the reasons you stated, but doing so helps to allow one "official" narrative to be easily pushed on all of us which has very real impact on our lives. The very patterns you describe observing are in large part the result of "official narratives".

I appreciate what you are saying and it has some intellectual merit for sure. But given I reject nearly all political parties as unauthentic intellectually, supporting any side is hypocrisy.

 

[brian64]

I appreciate what you are saying and it has some intellectual merit for sure. But given I reject nearly all political parties as unauthentic intellectually, supporting any side is hypocrisy.

I'm not for a second referring to political parties. I reject all of them as well. I'm simply talking about narratives and world views...and just trying to decipher reality.

Sometimes I think the Amish are the smartest...just stay out of all of it. The problem is they're being targeted now too...they're not going to be left alone.

I'm reminded of Tom Bombadil in LOTR's. He had created a little realm all his own where nothing going on outside of it affected him. And even the ring had no power there. But he chose not to participate in the "fellowship" to dispose of the ring...and at some point when this was being discussed, Gandalf made the comment that if Mordor obtains the ring, "even Bombadil will fall". Point being, we're all involved whether we think we are or not.

 

[jpmcwjr]

Can we continue this discussion with no further mention of politics or LOTR? (because I, among others, don't know that piece and am unlikely to watch it.)

 

[brian64]

Can we continue this discussion with no further mention of politics or LOTR? (because I, among others, don't know that piece and am unlikely to watch it.)

Don't worry...Bombadil wasn't in the movies...you'd have to actually read the books. It's just to illustrate a point...I suspect @telescopes has read Tolkien. If not I'll be surprised.

 

[jpmcwjr]

And, Brian, by "run out" of any commodity, I mean demand outstrips supply and it eventually becomes so expensive it's available only to the really rich.

And, quite right, haven't read any Tolkien unless it was so long ago I have forgotten! I did have an extensive grounding in literature, but that was 50 years ago, and any cred I had then is gone.

 

[brian64]

And, Brian, by "run out" of any commodity, I mean demand outstrips supply and it eventually becomes so expensive it's available only to the really rich.

Yes, the interesting thing about artificial scarcity is it's not based entirely on just perception. It's "managed" in various ways. In the case of oil, part of this management has been not building and expanding refineries. It doesn't matter how much of it is in the ground if we aren't processing it.

 

[FurCoat]

I love my 911.

However a base trim can never be found, and it really took a lot of luck to even find a new 911 for sale.

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I've got a few of those.

 

[georged]

There's a lot of perception management that goes into maintaining a belief in scarcity...just as with diamonds.

How De Beers Convinced People to Buy and Covet Worthless Diamonds - Brightwork Research & Analysis

The story of how De Beers created a new market for its diamonds is one of the great stories of mind control. We cover how De Beers performed this mind control trick.

www.brightworkresearch.com

 

[cshubhra]

I've got a few of those. View attachment 245660View attachment 245661View attachment 245664View attachment 245662

The white coupe and the red targa are beautiful

 

[jpmcwjr]

Yes, the interesting thing about artificial scarcity is it's not based entirely on just perception. It's "managed" in various ways. In the case of oil, part of this management has been not building and expanding refineries. It doesn't matter how much of it is in the ground if we aren't processing it.

Some 40 years ago, I financed oil exploration and development, and had access to some of the most knowledgeable folks in industry, gov't and private researchers.

Granted, oil reserves and prices have long been managed, well before OPEC became a force. But there is a finite amount of recoverable reserves. Some more will be discovered, some that's inaccessible now will be recovered, etc., new technologies will bring more online. But will be way less than is needed to sustain consumption anything like in the last 25 years.

 

[brian64]

Some 40 years ago, I financed oil exploration and development, and had access to some of the most knowledgeable folks in industry, gov't and private researchers.

Granted, oil reserves and prices have long been managed, well before OPEC became a force. But there is a finite amount of recoverable reserves. Some more will be discovered, some that's inaccessible now will be recovered, etc., new technologies will bring more online. But will be way less than is needed to sustain consumption anything like in the last 25 years.

There is some research indicating that oil is a substance that is "manufactured" by the Earth. There is some evidence of it being replenished over time. I don't claim to know for certain what the truth is on this point, and like so many other things, we probably will never know because there is so much manipulation and corruption in establishment science.

But for the sake of argument, let's say it's a finite supply and we absolutely have to transition to other types of energy. IMO, we're being set up to fail with the current "goals" being forced on us in regard to EV's...whether it's intentional or not.

 

[FurCoat]

The white coupe and the red targa are beautiful

I saw that gorgeous 911 of yours and had to reach out to another Porsche nut. I drove a 914 in high school, green with a tan interior. Wish I still had it. The Targa in front of the the red targa is a non anniversary car but original diamond blue metallic and factory whale tail. I need a better pic of her. I absolutely love Porsche's. I really want a 997 turbo. The white coupe is my father's and he bought it new in Madrid in 1970. We took out the original 2.2 and transmission and put them on a shelf. Replaced them with a 3.2 built to 3.4 (carbureted) mated the a turbo 4 speed transmission. Growing up with these cars I had no chance of a normal life. Here’s a pic of the engine swap and the interior.

 

[mikethompson]

Extra extra! Things cost more than they used to, and companies will charge what people will pay.

 

[mikethompson]

The fact that this thread touches upon EVs has been a humorous read as well.

 

[cshubhra]

I saw that gorgeous 911 of yours and had to reach out to another Porsche nut. I drove a 914 in high school, green with a tan interior. Wish I still had it. The Targa in front of the the red targa is a non anniversary car but original diamond blue metallic and factory whale tail. I need a better pic of her. I absolutely love Porsche's. I really want a 997 turbo. The white coupe is my father's and he bought it new in Madrid in 1970. We took out the original 2.2 and transmission and put them on a shelf. Replaced them with a 3.2 built to 3.4 (carbureted) mated the a turbo 4 speed transmission. Growing up with these cars I had no chance of a normal life. Here’s a pic of the engine swap and the interior.View attachment 245674View attachment 245675View attachment 245676

I admit I am not a huge Porsche fan but I do love to make the daily drive a little spicy . There is no better car to make the daily drive spicy is a 911. I am loving my 911

Edit: My original post above was probably incomplete, so here is the corrected version.

I love sports cars which can also double up as daily drivers, and can carry a family in comfort. I love the 911 because it fits the definition best , but I love all cars that fit the above definition.

 

[FurCoat]

I admit I am not a huge Porsche fan but I do love to make the daily drive a little spicy . There is no better car to make the daily drive spicy is a 911. I am loving my 911

Edit: My original post above was probably incomplete, so here is the corrected version.

I love sports cars which can also double up as daily drivers, and can carry a family in comfort. I love the 911 because it fits the definition best , but I love all cars that fit the above definition.

So true. Very versatile cars.