Àll I Wanted was Another Tin of Crooner, but......

[Scrapyard Ape]

Went to the Pipe Rack in Akron to get another tin of Crooner(which has been slowly becoming a favorite) but I just HAD to get more. All three of these are on my "C & D Try List" so I pulled the trigger.

Of note: the tin of Junkyard Dawg is over four years old and starting bulge a bit on the bottom. Not sure if I should pop it now or wait for it to explode.

 

[Waning Embers]

wait for it to explode.

I've had a few C&D cans explode in my tobacco closet. Sounds like firecrackers.

 

[Scrapyard Ape]

I've had a few C&D cans explode in my tobacco closet. Sounds like firecrackers.

How bulgy did they get before cracking? I don't want to open anything unless I have to.

 

[Waning Embers]

How bulgy did they get before cracking? I don't want to open anything unless I have to.

Almost ball shaped.

 

[dottlejockey]

I have several bulgy tins in the cellar but haven't had one pop yet!

Always nice to clear a few more items off the to-try list. Enjoy...

 

[Pipe_Guard]

Funny thing is,, I have read on the other "forum" that CD blends need to age at least a year before you get a decent product. So pop that junkyard dog open.

 

[Waning Embers]

Funny thing is,, I have read on the other "forum" that CD blends need to age at least a year before you get a decent product. So pop that junkyard dog open.

All pipe tobacco is intended by the blender to be used upon receipt. Even blenders have been amused by cellaring and aging. Ninety percent of what you read and hear about pipe smoking are wive's tales and myth.

 

[telescopes]

Funny thing is,, I have read on the other "forum" that CD blends need to age at least a year before you get a decent product. So pop that junkyard dog open.

You may have read "some" posters who said such nonsense, but be assured that is not accepted wisdom. It is the wisdom of those who chase the latest thing, idea, or enjoy being a part of a herd mentality, but many many posters, myself included haves said aging is a thing not made up by the blenders. On both forums.

 

[huntertrw]

How bulgy did they get before cracking?

Almost ball shaped.

Uh-oh!

 

[Pipe_Guard]

You may have read "some" posters who said such nonsense, but be assured that is not accepted wisdom. It is the wisdom of those who chase the latest thing, idea, or enjoy being a part of a herd mentality, but many many posters, myself included haves said aging is a thing not made up by the blenders. On both forums.

It seems to be a common talk on cornell and diehl that the blends need to be aged before use.

I do admit the "crack a tin open the day it arrives in the mail, close it up and leave it on the book shelf for a week before smoking" rule DOES help things out.

However, it is not a bad thing or a good thing. It helps

 

[khiddy]

I mean, C&D *does* have a “Cellar Series” that they specifically market as being designed to peak 5-10 years after release, so to say that it’s only end-users who are recommending C&D tins need age is not quite accurate.

 

[telescopes]

It seems to be a common talk on cornell and diehl that the blends need to be aged before use.

I do admit the "crack a tin open the day it arrives in the mail, close it up and leave it on the book shelf for a week before smoking" rule DOES help things otut.

However, it is not a bad thing or a good thing. It helps

Unless a tobacco is specifically sold to "cellar", opening it when you purchase it is the recommended way the blender meant for it to be smoked. That said, as a consumer, you can do with it as you like. You might like the changes that occur as it ages. You might not.

This is my now opinion, but I think too many tobacco purchasers mistake tobacco for red wine. There is this conception that everything improves with age. No one is going to convince them differently.

I mean, C&D *does* have a “Cellar Series” that they specifically market as being designed to peak 5-10 years after release, so to say that it’s only end-users who are recommending C&D tins need age is not quite accurate.

Yes- but in the context of this conversation, this isn't the norm. I would add the following - when someone sells a bottle of wine, the bottler doesn't intend for the purchaser to transfer the product to a more secure aging vessel. I'll take aging as a recommendation with pipe tobacco is sold in containers that are designed from the start to maintain the quality of the tobacco for decades.

 

[khiddy]

I would add the following - when someone sells a bottle of wine, the bottler doesn't intend for the purchaser to transfer the product to a more secure aging vessel. I'll take aging as a recommendation with pipe tobacco is sold in containers that are designed from the start to maintain the quality of the tobacco for decades.

I’m not sure I understand what this example is meant to illustrate? (Perhaps I’m just dense, can you unpack this for dummies like me?)

 

[Pipe_Guard]

I’m not sure I understand what this example is meant to illustrate? (Perhaps I’m just dense, can you unpack this for dummies like me?)

um just reference any of your least favorite "your mamma" joke. This is an indirect, but insulting.

Basically its a "only a moron would buy a bottle of 4$ wine, then put it into a 20$ mason jar to age it"

Wine was always sold in barrels, casks, etc. The wine store would then decant it into a smaller container for the purchaser.

 

[telescopes]

um just reference any of your least favorite "your mamma" joke. This is an indirect, but insulting.

Basically its a "only a moron would buy a bottle of 4$ wine, then put it into a 20$ mason jar to age it"

Wine was always sold in barrels, casks, etc. The wine store would then decant it into a smaller container for the purchaser.

Well, that's one way of looking at it. But what I was referring to is that the containers that most tobacco comes to us in are woefully under engineered for real aging over many many years. Even the cited cellar series comes to us in a container that is still not engineered for deep aging. Quality wine meant for aging comes in a bottle that can hold the product for many many decades. You don't need to move wine from a bottle to a better container because it is already in a container that can do the aging.

Can you age tobacco. Yes. Is is sold for aging? No. How do we know? The container it is sold is not designed to do just that. Can it do it? Sure. Can a Ford Pinto drive the Pan American Highway? Sure. But I wouldn't recommend it.

Look, if you want to age your tobacco and it is going to make you happy, do it. If you believe that is the smart way to go, no one is stopping you. And yes, sometimes the result is great.

 

[Pipe_Guard]

Well, that's one way of looking at it. But what I was referring to is that the containers that most tobacco comes to us in are woefully under engineered for real aging over many many years. Even the cited cellar series comes to us in a container that is still not engineered for deep aging. Quality wine meant for aging comes in a bottle that can hold the product for many many decades. You don't need to move wine from a bottle to a better container because it is already in a container that can do the aging.

Can you age tobacco. Yes. Is is sold for aging? No. How do we know? The container it is sold is not designed to do just that. Can it do it? Sure. Can a Ford Pinto drive the Pan American Highway? Sure. But I wouldn't recommend it.

Look, if you want to age your tobacco and it is going to make you happy, do it. If you believe that is the smart way to go, no one is stopping you. And yes, sometimes the result is great.

Ah, the old

"sex with strange women you meet in a bar, doesnt always end up with you chained to a bed while she cuts your liver and kidneys out"