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  1. brightleaf

    Ten Years of Banned Smoking in England

    ericusrex: "Down with the Gubmint! Libertarians are the biggest bunch of whiny, selfish, hypocritical fools this country has ever seen." Making up a statement, and then acting as if someone else said it is nothing more than a lie. Calling someone who has a different political belief than you...
  2. brightleaf

    The Costs Of Tobacco Use

    lol jaytex969.
  3. brightleaf

    Health Benefits Of Tobacco

    Here are some benefits found from other chemicals naturally found in the tobacco leaf. Chemicals that have benefits that you won't get if taking nicotine in isolation. I looked at just four other chemicals, although there are many more. We have been living with plants for thousands of years...
  4. brightleaf

    Health Benefits Of Tobacco

    What does "newness" have to do with anything pipeman7? If someone says this: warren: "I'll make one last response: "1a : moral depravity or corruption : wickedness b: a moral fault or failingc : a habitual and usually trivial defect or shortcoming : foible suffered from the vice of curiosity."...
  5. brightleaf

    Health Benefits Of Tobacco

    Looks like your spending a lot of time on me sablebrush52. I am glad you think I am worth your effort. I wonder how much less time it would've taken you to answer the questions than to write what you did. You ask me questions assuming to get answers but demand $10,000 plus $800 an hour when...
  6. brightleaf

    The Costs Of Tobacco Use

    I recognize the Constitution of the United States of America, I am no comrade. It isn't the fault of smokers that our medical system charges unrealistic and unjustified prices, it isn't the fault of smokers that nonsmokers are required to pay for the healthcare of some smokers who take advantage...
  7. brightleaf

    Health Benefits Of Tobacco

    So everyone here has a trivial defect and/or shortcoming. Thanks for letting us know who we are warren. I don't see smokers this way. Nor do I see myself this way.
  8. brightleaf

    The Costs Of Tobacco Use

    The real issue brought up by this thread is the problem of people being forced to pay a health care system with taxes (a health care system that is now priced 1,000s of time more than it was 60 or 70 years ago) for people that choose to use that system who wouldn't pay if they had they had to...
  9. brightleaf

    Health Benefits Of Tobacco

    "You have the option to tune him out, complain, or go somewhere else." Thanks for pointing out the obvious. Let me do the same. He can repeat his condemnations of us until his voice is gone, and I can point out his choice of words. Vice is not in my common vocabulary, I can assure you that is...
  10. brightleaf

    Ten Years of Banned Smoking in England

    "As for nationalism, I believe the recent surges are the dead-cat-bounce of a failed and dying ideology. It has never lasted long in the past and it's far too late for it now." The plans to destroy nationalism have been in progress for a long time. About a hundred years ago H.G. Wells, through...
  11. brightleaf

    The Costs Of Tobacco Use

    It only costs me about 50 cents a day. 168 million is a lot of money. I think someone may be overcharging.
  12. brightleaf

    Ten Years of Banned Smoking in England

    Oh I get it now. I do not think Western Civilization is dying, but I think freedom is.
  13. brightleaf

    Top Health Official Traded Tobacco Stock While Leading Anti-smoking Efforts

    "I'd be more concerned if she shorted tobacco stocks before trying to hammer them." Same here. Tobacco use is not a disease. I do not see the conflict of interest. Are folks in this thread trying to stir up trouble? Why?
  14. brightleaf

    Ten Years of Banned Smoking in England

    I missed what you were referring to mso489. Could you elaborate?
  15. brightleaf

    Health Benefits Of Tobacco

    Moving from this statement "The very idea of taking the by-products of incineration into your body could provide health benefits is ... well laughable." To this statement "But, that's my weighing the risks v. the benefits" Is much easier for me to deal with. I don't have a problem with you...
  16. brightleaf

    Big Changes Coming, Maybe

    Going to doctors has one guaranteed result. You are much poorer for it. If the doctor is making you feel down on your health, save your money. Personally, I would rather die than live in fear of death in a nursing home, or being sapped of all resources by expensive out-patient care. I would...
  17. brightleaf

    Ten Years of Banned Smoking in England

    The author pretend to be a libertarian but acts more like a change agent. He talks about the bartender's rights in a private club needing to be protected. Are bartender's in private clubs appointed their job by the government? I have heard of cradle to grave plans and school to work government...
  18. brightleaf

    Health Benefits Of Tobacco

    Warren, You may think you use terms like selfish and vice in a way that isn't moralizing but it comes off like that. I say keep you self-flagellating private. I don't want your riding crop near me. It also sounds like you agree that some negative side effects are acceptable, yet you act like...
  19. brightleaf

    Health Benefits Of Tobacco

    I have well water so no fluoride from my drinking water. I do use fluoride toothpaste and occasionally use fluoride mouthwash (no dental insurance.) So it may be less than average, but I have some in my system.
  20. brightleaf

    Health Benefits Of Tobacco

    Breaking the skin is harmful. So taking a medicine by injection is unhealthy. That's the logic I see sablebrush52 and warren using. jitterbugdude gave a study in his last post that gave the exact evidence asked for. It was for smoking, not taking nicotine by any other route. The argument that...