Perhaps we are blaming the wrong people
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And if you read carefully, you will see that this post is not about smoking. It is about nicotine being used as a liquid, patch etc. (not smoking) that has beneficial effects that the medical industry would want to control.
Is there a course for this? Where do I sign up??? I'm from Saskatchewan and we are well known for our pirates!! Yar!!
It would be a great fit...... but reversed!! The USA should join Canada!! It could be the 11th through 15th provinces with 2 extra territories (Alaska and Hawaii)! Free (though sometimes slow) healthcare! Vast maple syrup reserves! Learning the proper way to say "ABOUT"! The benefits are endless!!
The USA could ditch that silly eagle and adopt the majestic beaver as it's national symbol!! Talk about a win for the USA!!
If you’ve been keeping up OP you are definitely onto something because the new thing especially with the ‘healthy’ crew of athletes and intelligent people are the zyns and the like. Tucker Carlson even has his own brand - basically tobacco less nicotine salt sublingual teabags
So they know nicotine is necessary and still useful
As for cigarette tobacco I think they forsaw a lot of the farmers decided to move on
I read the comments on YouTube of tobacco barn videos from years ago and many come from farmers saying “been there done that , back breaking bacca labor”
So they know nicotine is necessary and still useful
As for cigarette tobacco I think they forsaw a lot of the farmers decided to move on
I read the comments on YouTube of tobacco barn videos from years ago and many come from farmers saying “been there done that , back breaking bacca labor”
“Mr. Smith, I would normally advise you to take up chain smoking in order to control your MS, but the FDA, the AMA, this hospital and my malpractice insurance company have formed a conspiratorial cabal that will force you to accept a medication that has actually shown promise in both clinical trials and actual patient case studies”
Thank you. There are those on the forum that would rather criticize and think they are clever than to just consider the possibility. A forum is for discussion and consideration. My post was just something to consider that perhaps the closure and ban on tobacco throughout the world may not be all the governments idea, but the medical industry. It is just a post to consider the possibility. Thank you for understanding the post/
Right? And maybe the mere announcement would make our populace go full retard and influence a national election...
When I was in college in Bellingham, it was the Canadians coming down by the thousands to buy our gas and dairy, not vice versa.
Hard pass, brother. And we are brothers. No one backs us up in a fight like the Canadians. I was in AF in 2006 and the Canadians were fantastic brothers in arms.
Merry Christmas
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No thanks. I lived in Canada for 16 years. Well, actually it was Vermont. Close enough for me
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And Dr. House, as we all know, is a great fan of Some Breasts!
I LOVE posts like this! Right from the beginning, where it states, "I am not one for conspiracy theories but let us consider this." It sets up a new conspiracy theory, essentially "blaming the medical profession for their greed and power-hungry ideas".
I would agree that the Medical Industrial Complex has become a potentially life threatening, as well as life savings threatening entity. Cost increases far outstrip inflation year after year. The cost of prescriptions can be stratospheric. Health Insurance is costly, and getting your insurance to actually cover your necessary treatment can amount to going to war.
But what is driving this? Is is greedy doctors? Thieving insurance companies? Skyrocketing malpractice insurance rates? Rapacious lawyers? Greedy victims? Incompetent lawmakers? Incompetent medical review boards? Corporatization of medical practices? Private equity stripping hospitals of assets and then selling them off for the real estate value?
Lot of things happening. Not much of them good. There's a lot to unpack. But how much of it amounts to conspiracy as opposed to the "free market" or "laissez faire" capitalism in action? Your healthcare is a commodity, like a television set or a roll of toilet paper.
"Not too long ago nobody cared if you smoked." In my 73 years of rotating around the sun, I've never encountered an environment where "nobody cared if you smoked". Sure, smoking was more widely accepted, even romanticized, but there were always people who hated the smell of tobacco smoke and would not tolerate being in the presence of it. Social acceptance has waned in the face of evidence that smoking is an unhealthy habit that can result not only in lung cancer, but in COPD and emphysema, as well as other medical conditions. Are these rates of disease actually the product of a grand conspiracy? The messaging surrounding smoking hasn't been delivered secretly, whispered in closed spaces. It's been right out front with the messengers openly identifying themselves.
"Then all of a sudden it was discovered that nicotine had a positive effect on stopping or hindering the onset of Parkinson's Disease, Alzheimer's, MS and a host of other ailments." There was a short term suggestion made that nicotine could be a helpful treatment, based on some observational studies which were proven to be wrong. So there doesn't seem to be any value there.
"The government was happy collecting the taxes on it..." The government is happy collecting taxes on anything that they can collect taxes on. But if the government merely saw smoking as a plus, why did it engage in studies of the economic effects of smoking, including productivity losses, an average of $6,000 a year per smoker, that cost the US economy hundreds of billions of dollars annually? Could hundreds of billions of dollars of lost productivity annually been a consideration in the government's decision to promote anti-smoking messaging and legislation? Or were the taxes on tobacco more important than the hundreds of billions of dollars in lost productivity?
I'm not seeing a grand conspiracy here. Just inconvenient facts.
What created the Medical Industrial Complex and now powers it is the TYPE of person attracted to medicine as a career changed from "born empathic and determined to help others" to "relentlessly greedy, money-driven asshole."
And the worse it gets the more true it becomes, feedback-loop-style. (Meaning the gentler "helper" people want nothing to do with financial rape, and the financial rape artists have no desire to waste their time with gentle-minded people. i. e. Both sides realize they will convince the other to change their mind, so no one even tries anymore.)
Indeed, the same shift in personality type is now also destroying veterinary practices. Some exploitive shitheads realized that enough humans would pay absurd money to save their pets to make buying up and taking over vet practices a Really Lucrative Thing. That "pet love" was boundless and emotion driven and ripe to be exploited.
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Because it's a goddamned conspiracy, that's why!
And shareholders.
If any of you have a pension plan, 401K or mutual funds, you have profited from the Medical Industrial Complex.
I read on the internet that tide pods are an excellent choice for a good cleanse... you just gotta drink some warm water with it, chant "chuga chuga chuga" while listening to Chubby Checker and doing "the twist" dance from the 50s to get the proper swirl going inside. In fairly short order, all the impurities in your system will be spewing out most orifices available.
Ive been told they taste better if you snort a condom first...