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HammerandPipe

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Another question I have for you pipe folk while sitting here enjoying some Bankside. I think this is the right spot for it, if not, mods, please forgive me.


I know this might go against my previous post about simplicity and burleys being part of that, but I don’t think this post really changes that either.


I’m wondering if I’m alone here or if there are others like me. My palate tends to enjoy a wide range of blends, but there have been a few that just don’t click for me. I’ll happily smoke most things though.


Because of that, building a cellar or rotation feels… tricky. Conventional advice is usually: buy deep on blends you love and get a few tins of something else to rotate in for trial. But for me, almost everything is enjoyable, so going “deep” feels harder to justify. I’ve also gotten rid of jars that bore me because they’re basically the same as something I already have or I just never reach for them, life’s too short to smoke a blend you’re not motivated about.


Even though I mostly sip on the burleys, my rotation is small but slightly heavy on Old Joe Krantz, Night Train, Bankside, Speakeasy, and Pegasus, with a few aromatics and medium-strength Englishes like Horizons and Kings Fool. I usually start with a aromatic, move into something like OJK, and end the day with an English. I’ve tried OJK and Night Train back to back and almost needed chest compressions so doing all day burleys with what I currently have is a test in survival not enjoyment:LOL:. Anyway…


I’m curious how others like me navigate this “anything goes” palate:


Do you build a deep cellar, or just keep a small, flexible lineup?
How do you decide when to buy more of something versus trying something new?
How do you avoid boredom without overbuying?

Would love to hear how other smokers handle this. I feel like I’m in a unique spot , most advice seems geared toward folks with more defined palates that favor a baccy family or certain components in a lead role, but I think there’s a crowd out there who genuinely enjoy most blends.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
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Southern Oregon
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Another question I have for you pipe folk while sitting here enjoying some Bankside. I think this is the right spot for it, if not, mods, please forgive me.


I know this might go against my previous post about simplicity and burleys being part of that, but I don’t think this post really changes that either.


I’m wondering if I’m alone here or if there are others like me. My palate tends to enjoy a wide range of blends, but there have been a few that just don’t click for me. I’ll happily smoke most things though.


Because of that, building a cellar or rotation feels… tricky. Conventional advice is usually: buy deep on blends you love and get a few tins of something else to rotate in for trial. But for me, almost everything is enjoyable, so going “deep” feels harder to justify. I’ve also gotten rid of jars that bore me because they’re basically the same as something I already have or I just never reach for them, life’s too short to smoke a blend you’re not motivated about.


Even though I mostly sip on the burleys, my rotation is small but slightly heavy on Old Joe Krantz, Night Train, Bankside, Speakeasy, and Pegasus, with a few aromatics and medium-strength Englishes like Horizons and Kings Fool. I usually start with a aromatic, move into something like OJK, and end the day with an English. I’ve tried OJK and Night Train back to back and almost needed chest compressions so doing all day burleys with what I currently have is a test in survival not enjoyment:LOL:. Anyway…


I’m curious how others like me navigate this “anything goes” palate:


Do you build a deep cellar, or just keep a small, flexible lineup?
How do you decide when to buy more of something versus trying something new?
How do you avoid boredom without overbuying?

Would love to hear how other smokers handle this. I feel like I’m in a unique spot , most advice seems geared toward folks with more defined palates that favor a baccy family or certain components in a lead role, but I think there’s a crowd out there who genuinely enjoy most blends.
This is a really good question. Cellaring "deep" means different things to different people. I know people who cellar 10, 20, or far more, pounds of a specific blend that they love. And, that may translate to more than one blend, so, for example, they have 100 lbs made up of 10 blends. And they may have smaller amounts of other blends.

My cellaring deep is nothing like that. It might be a few pounds of a favorite blend at most, with mostly smaller amounts of other blends. And, I like variety, so I have a number of blends with 5 to 10 tins. And as I like variety, I also like a variety of different makers, because the style of blend and its flavors vary from maker to maker. A Va/Per from Dan Tobacco will not resemble a Va/Per from C&D.

I don't find myself getting bored because there is a kaleidoscopic range of flavors available to me in the types of blends that I favor.
 

VDL_Piper

Lifer
Jun 4, 2021
2,508
22,726
Springfield Nuclear Power Plant
When cellaring "deep" it's wise to consider a few things. 1. How much you smoke. I see quite a few guys who are light smokers on here and as such a cellar for them is a vastly different equation than someone who is smoking 6 to 10 bowls a day but also be aware that some guys here have the time now too and are retired. If you're working 5/6 days a week and a younger family you're incredibly time poor. 2. Just like you have said, is variety the thing you love, if so spread your flavour profile across your cellar. 3. Tastes change. This is a hard one if you're newish to pipe smoking as you haven't exposed your palate to lots of different tobaccos so how do you know. My advice on this one is choose blends that are readily available and sample as many as you can and find your unicorns in currently made stocks and cellar these. If you find something special, do the sums, I'm young, want to smoke 1 bowl of this until I no longer can and then work out what you need. 4. Tobacco ages but it does have a used by date in general terms so don't buy it all at once, stagger your purchases and this holds you in good stead across many decades then.
 

huntertrw

Lifer
Jul 23, 2014
6,924
11,940
The Lower Forty of Hill Country
With the exception of Edgeworth Ready-Rubbed, my palate could hardly be classified as "brand loyal" and I enjoy an ever-growing variety of pipe-tobaccos.

In the book titled "my brother Bill - An Affectionate Reminiscence" (Trident Press - New York - 1963) by the late John Faulkner, a younger brother of the late author William Faulkner, he described the author's taste in tobaccos: "Bill liked variety in his pipe tobacco. He would blend it differently at times to get a new taste and every time he would go into a pipe shop he'd buy several selections of ready-mixed tobacco. He would smoke from one can and then another, like a man trying different foods at each meal."

I especially like that last sentence and suppose that my approach is similar; a personal application of the old saying "variety is the spice of life."
 
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Chris T

Starting to Get Obsessed
Aug 3, 2023
138
297
South Florida
My taste is pretty eclectic too, and I'm not a heavy smoker, so cellaring "deep" for me is four tins. I read reviews and pick up a tin of what sounds good. I've found that if you pay attention to the reviewers you're likely to find that your own tastes correspond to one or more other people's; rely on them for guidance. I've got quite a few tins I'm looking forward to trying, but won't get to them for several years. If I don't get them now I may not get a chance to try them.
 

FLDRD

Lifer
Oct 13, 2021
3,088
13,147
Arkansas
I'm usually bored with a blend by the time I finish a tin, no matter how much I liked it. So I went wider than deep, with multiples of only a small percentage of what I've tried. Even so, I have an abundance of leaf.
I also may have overbought on the English side of things, I've moved away from them the last year especially.
I'm hoping that my erratic palate will circle around eventually.
 

wyfbane

Lifer
Apr 26, 2013
6,633
12,021
Tennessee
I am very much like you in that most tobaccos interest me. I cellared very widely. I wish I had gone deeper in the McClelland dept (most do), but I have enough to last me a fair while.

I completely agree with the time message. Riddled with ADHD and being a single parent, I collected, but barely smoked. Now, I have a lot more time here on acreage, and I smoke a lot more. Luckily, I took that into account and stillhave enough for myself until end of life, even if I start smoking 15 bowls a day. My kid will inherit less, but I have the goods!

So cellar wide, keep an ear to the ground to see what is going extinct and cellar that stuff (if you like it) deep. Cellar soon, as each new day becomes the cheapest it will ever be to cellar if you find a decent sale. I cannot believe how much tobacco has gone up in the last 6 years or so.

Best of luck!
 

BigR

Starting to Get Obsessed
Dec 3, 2024
192
2,137
My tastes vary from day to day. I find that one tobacco that I might not enjoy one time, might be outstanding the next time around with it. There are so many different factors that can alter the taste of tobaccos, different blends in different pipes, smoking after different drinks and food, different ways of packing a pipe,dryness of tobacco and etc. I keep a wide cellar so that I can try lots of different things at different times and circumstances. I think pipe smoking is an individual journey, and you will probably bounce back and forth with different tobaccos, as I know that I have.
 
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>Do you build a deep cellar, or just keep a small, flexible lineup?
I cellar deep of a single blend, and C&Ds small batches(cellared less deep, generally just 8oz), that's it. I'll buy a tin of other things if they intrigue me, or if I want to collect them for some reason, but never more than a few tins.

>How do you decide when to buy more of something versus trying something new?
I always buy more of my blend, and buy a lot of it, and if i want something else, it might be added on to an order.

>How do you avoid boredom without overbuying?
I buy 4oz or less, which is generally pretty cheap, especially if its bulk
 

OzPiper

Lifer
Nov 30, 2020
8,082
46,320
73
Sydney, Australia
A cautionary tale.

After 15 yrs of smoking cigars exclusively, I got back to pipes in 2018.
With online tobacco sales, I was like a kid in a candy store. I wanted to try everything that was out there.
I bought wide, but not deep.
I have over 70 blends open as I like variety.

Then came the Oz tobacco apocalypse in 2020 - huge excise on tobacco and consfication of tobacco imports. The consficated tobacco is destroyed - you are not accorded the choice of redeeming your tobacco upon payment of the relevant taxes.

All the Oz pipe smokers I have been in touch with have experienced this first hand in the past few months.

In theory you can apply for a licence to import tobacco for personal use.
In practice the powers that be ignore your application(s) and you don’t hear back from them - my personal experience.

Some orders do get through, but it’s a crap shoot. Retailers like SmokingPipes and ones in the EU and the UK will not deliver to Oz.

There is a limited choice available from Oz retailers. But as of 1st September 2025, the current price is AUD$180 per 50gms.
AND the retailers can only sell 30gm packs !

Thankfully I only smoke on the weekends - generally 2 bowls per day.
I have a few pounds stashed away and which should last me several years at my current rate of consumption.

There is no option in Oz to grow your own tobacco. The penalty is draconian and may include a jail sentence.

Enjoy the tobacco paradise that is the USA while it lasts.
But be warned - the anti-tobacco lobby is gathering momentum and the legislators are complicit with this

I hope the mods do not take this as a political rant.
Just reporting the current state of affairs in Oz.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
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The longer I smoke, the fewer the blends I want in my rotation. I just sold some really good tobacco that was very unlikely I'd ever reach for. I cleared space to replace it with my favorite few blends. I'll likely do that a few more times. I'd probably be satisfied if all I had were St John's Flake Virginia, CVP, MB Virginia Flake and HH Pure Virginia, Vauen No 14 and Pfeifen Huber Virginia Golden Flake. The fact I have a fair amount of 6 to 8 other Virginia Flakes offers me all the variety I care for.
 
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