Well I'm Fat Pt2

[SmokingInTheWind]

I don’t expect most people to adopt the ketogenic lifestyle

I’m glad I stumbled across it. I was dying a slow death on the SAD diet recommended by my doctors, even when I tried to eat “healthy”. The doctors wanted to put me on all the maintenance meds so I started looking for alternatives. I have been on a keto diet of one form or another for about 10 years and I don’t need any meds and I feel great.

 

[telescopes]

I don’t expect most people to adopt the ketogenic lifestyle, however, they should stop lying about it. Yes, most of the current “data” is anecdotal, but that’s largely due to the fact that studies are too expensive and the labs are pressured by Big Ag and Big Pharma not to undertake the study. The moral superiority of vegans is also a problem.

Keto, when followed correctly, works. More importantly, to my mind, the decrease in body inflammation is amazing.

 

[frozenchurchwarden]

I changed my diet. Why would I lie about something like that? Don't be an idiot.

You either achieved a calorie deficit or you didn't, nothing else matters.

"Changing your diet" from a large calorie surplus to a small calorie surplus still means you never began the process of losing weight at all.

Look up the bodybuilder diet, losing weight while staying healthy is a perfectly understood science.

 

[georged]

You either achieved a calorie deficit or you didn't, nothing else matters.

Hey... rules are meant to be broken, man... So why not laws?

It's about time we stood up to those stinkin' so-called "laws of physics".

I don't remember ever gettin' asked if I liked 'em, so who decided that shit, anyway?

Hey, I know. It was school textbook publishers. Follow the money, amirite?

Anyway, congratulations on having been gaslit about all that "laws of physics" crap Mr. frozenchurchwarden.

Just don't spout it here, OK?

 

[Puff nstuff]

Sugar and many of the chemicals in our foods for some have the same driving addiction as drugs. It's a reality whether someone wants to acknowledge it or not. Often times for those individuals suffering from the addiction driven behaviors propagated by the foods and chemicals that are reacting with their bodies, there is no difference. Which is my point. But... if anyone wants to think that I am wrong, so be it. I personally don't care because I am right. Period.

 

[jpberg]

Too many uninformed contrarians like yourself on this forum. I guess enthusiastic tobacco users are understandably defensive in this day and age. Comments like yours are why I’ve lost interest in Pipesmagazine.

Welcome to pmag! Where ya from?

 

[Hillcrest]

While the experts are in a good mood, can I ask if anyone has a link to a simple,practical explanation of the Keto diet ? More day to day practical than theoretical ?? Thank you in advance.

 

[fireground_piper]

While the experts are in a good mood, can I ask if anyone has a link to a simple,practical explanation of the Keto diet ? More day to day practical than theoretical ?? Thank you in advance.

When you've restricted enough carbs, your body will burn fat instead for its energy.

 

[OverMountain]

I went from sky high blood sugar levels to only pre-diabetes levels in a couple months by losing 40 lbs.

I really didn't make dramatic changes. I drank lots of water.

Once you realize your health is being harmed by your weight, food doesn't look or smell as good.

Good luck buddy.

Drinking lots of water?

 

[SmokingInTheWind]

While the experts are in a good mood, can I ask if anyone has a link to a simple,practical explanation of the Keto diet ? More day to day practical than theoretical ?? Thank you in advance.

This short video will give you the basics. If you want to go deeper you can go to his YouTube channel and go down the rabbit hole.

 

[SmokingInTheWind]

Sugar and many of the chemicals in our foods for some have the same driving addiction as drugs. It's a reality whether someone wants to acknowledge it or not. Often times for those individuals suffering from the addiction driven behaviors propagated by the foods and chemicals that are reacting with their bodies, there is no difference. Which is my point. But... if anyone wants to think that I am wrong, so be it. I personally don't care because I am right. Period.

Years ago I was having breakfast with a guy at work. He was a diabetic. He was telling me about how his doctor had recently told him he needed to cut back on sugar (carbs) or he was going to lose some toes in the near future. As he was telling me this he was preparing two English muffins. Not two halves, but four halves with two packets of grape jelly on each. I told him that was nothing but pure sugar on his plate but he insisted that his dietician said it was OK. His addiction to sugar had him ignoring the basics of a proper diet for a diabetic and risking having to have body parts amputated. I believe that sugar (carb) addiction is a real thing for some people.

 

[Hillcrest]

This short video will give you the basics. If you want to go deeper you can go to his YouTube channel and go down the rabbit hole.

OK Thanks. That's pretty much what I'm on for Type II Diabetes. I've cut out almost all carbs but I do enjoy some pasta every few weeks and multigrain bread for sandwiches when pressed for time. And I probably can't give up ice cream completely but I can now limit myself to just a spoonful. I've lost almost 90 lbs over the last few years and just had the best numbers I've had in years but that may due be to temporarily losing my appetite with a severe pinched nerve in the back. I also have to cook for others who do not have my restrictions so its not always easy to balance things. Thanks so much, again.

 

[SmokingInTheWind]

OK Thanks. That's pretty much what I'm on for Type II Diabetes. I've cut out almost all carbs but I do enjoy some pasta every few weeks and multigrain bread for sandwiches when pressed for time. And I probably can't give up ice cream completely but I can now limit myself to just a spoonful. I've lost almost 90 lbs over the last few years and just had the best numbers I've had in years but that may due be to temporarily losing my appetite with a severe pinched nerve in the back. I also have to cook for others who do not have my restrictions so it’s not always easy to balance things. Thanks so much, again.

Congrats on the weight loss. That is amazing. If you search his channel you will find that Dr. Berry has videos related to diabetes. My wife and I both eat keto so it is easy. It can be hard entertaining others so I get that. I hope your back is healing up OK.

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

It's funny that a symptom of severe type two diabetes is weight loss...

Once you start getting sick you may lose your appetite.

The body does TRY to heal itself.

 

[Hillcrest]

Congrats on the weight loss. That is amazing. If you search his channel you will find that Dr. Berry has videos related to diabetes. My wife and I both eat keto so it is easy. It can be hard entertaining others so I get that. I hope your back is healing up OK.

Thanks. Back is much better (tolerable twinge) but my Doctor ordered an MRi to rule out disk and compression injury etc. Better safe than sorry.

 

[Hillcrest]

It's funny that a symptom of severe type two diabetes is weight loss...

Once you start getting sick you may lose your appetite.

The body does TRY to heal itself.

My biggest problem was self-discipline until I got the hang of eating right.

 

[mortonbriar]

The Kato diet is rice heavy I think.

 

[Brendan]

Any progress on the cpap therapy @The Benedictine ?

 

[The Benedictine]

Any progress on the cpap therapy @The Benedictine ?

I go tomorrow to get my machine

 

[FLDRD]

I told him that was nothing but pure sugar on his plate but he insisted that his dietician said it was OK. His addiction to sugar had him ignoring the basics of a proper diet for a diabetic and risking having to have body parts amputated. I believe that sugar (carb) addiction is a real thing for some people.

The education for dieticians was hijacked a couple of decades ago by big corporations. Think Coca Cola pouring $ into the educational entities and the results you'd get...