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Jul 19, 2024
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So I finally got the results of my sleep apnea test and I have sever sleep apnea. My doctor has been on vacation but he will get my prior authorization approved for Zepbound when he gets back. He believes my sleep apnea is weight caused.

Nothing else has worked to lose weight. Not diet, exercise, nor fasting. I'm excited to try this new medication.
 

anotherbob

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So I finally got the results of my sleep apnea test and I have sever sleep apnea. My doctor has been on vacation but he will get my prior authorization approved for Zepbound when he gets back. He believes my sleep apnea is weight caused.

Nothing else has worked to lose weight. Not diet, exercise, nor fasting. I'm excited to try this new medication.
The quickiest way to lose weight is to simply hack off a limb. Won't help with whatever issues you're trying to fix but it will literally take off excess pounds.
I hope that works for you as sleep apnea is a terrible thing. And fighting weight is not easy. You're fighting evolution, an insane level of access to rich foods, a society that basically works very hard on make life increasingly sedentary, and stuff I haven't even thought of yet. The point being the cards are stacked against you from the start. Unless you're one of those weirdos that just can't put on the weight.
 

warren

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Until you get serious and make serious, basic, changes in your lifestyle you're gonna be tethered to medical professionals. It's entirely up to you how you cope with the consequences of your personal choices. You have my sympathies but, certainly not my support. We are simply too different. :sher: I iterate, choices have consequences.

Addendum: I'm a great believer in "personal responsibility" that's obvious. I encourage everyone to take responsibility for their choices in life. "nuff said!
 
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Before I started taking medication to lose weight, if see a Dietician and find a good trainer to see a couple of times per week.Buy a Pool lar Flow heart monitor to make sure you don't hurt yourself. Eating the right foods and the right amounts combined with the right exercise regimen will result in lost weight. 45 to 60 minutes per day of exercise with 30 minutes of it being cardio will help with the weight loss, you'll feel better and likely sleep better.

It take discipline, it's tough at first but if done right, it will become part of your daily routine. I've gotten to where I work out for 45 minutes to an hour before I play golf. Cutting sugars by 90% and getting rid of crap processed foods has worked well for me.
 

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You seem stuck up your own ass. I've dieted, continue to work out, have changed my eating habits and I still can't lose weight. I've been going through this for years. My own mental health medication causes weight gain. With working out I bet I can deadlift more than you. Instead of bashing someone who needs a desperate fix, work on your personality as it seems to be lacking.
The issue is that there are a great many people who think all bodies are a one size fits all solution. They aren't. For all this talk about discipline and mind over reality, it comes down to a myopic view of the world and of people. Our bodies were not evolved to live in a surplus of toxic food ingredients that for some - not everyone - are more addictive and punishing to both the body and the mind than heroin. For those folks, there is no "willing" ones way to good health. Yes, restricting types of foods, restricting calories, and engaging in exercise is critically important - but for those whose bodies are chemically responding differently than one would hope for, it will never be enough. Something else - an aide of some type - has to be introduced as a helper until other variables can get under control. Shit, arrogance is the flag of a cognitively narrow minded and general lack of curiosity.
 

georged

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You seem stuck up your own ass. I've dieted, continue to work out, have changed my eating habits and I still can't lose weight. I've been going through this for years. My own mental health medication causes weight gain. With working out I bet I can deadlift more than you. Instead of bashing someone who needs a desperate fix, work on your personality as it seems to be lacking.

Hm.

If you burn more calories than your body needs to sustain itself, it will involuntarily reduce its own size to increase its chances for survival. Without exception.

There are only two ways to do that: Reduce intake, or increase the amount burned.

Meaning while you might have "dieted, worked out, and changed your eating habits for years and still can't lose weight", you haven't done those things enough.

By definition.

It is not an arguable point. Physics is physics.
 
Jul 19, 2024
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Hm.

If you burn more calories than your body needs to sustain itself, it will involuntarily reduce its own size to increase its chances for survival. Without exception.

There are only two ways to do that: Reduce intake, or increase the amount burned.

Meaning while you might have "dieted, worked out, and changed your eating habits for years and still can't lose weight", you haven't done those things enough.

By definition.

It is not an arguable point. Physics is physics.
And medications affect body chemistry. Go and educate yourself on mental health medications and weight gain. I'm not here to hold your hand.
 

georged

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And medications affect body chemistry. Go and educate yourself on mental health medications and weight gain. I'm not here to hold your hand.

"Affect body chemistry" does NOT mean that the fundamental properties of physics change or do not apply.

There COULD be medications that make the necessary self-discipline to succeed at dieting or exercise more difficult for some reason, but that isn't the same thing at all.
 
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"Affect body chemistry" does NOT mean that fundamental properties of physics change or do not apply.

The COULD be medications make the necessary self-discipline to succeed at dieting or exercise more difficult for some reason, but that isn't the same thing at all.
Pharmacological changes in body chemistry can and do affect the bodies abilities to do certain things. There is a reason there are side effects listed. Weight gain is a primary one. It has nothing to do with physics but chemistry. Mental health medication stores fat faster than it will burn off.
 
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Sig

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There are medications that can cause weight gain. But, those medications do that by increasing your appetite. I was on and off of Prednisone for over a decade. Prednisone is very well known for weight gain. I went from 195 pounds to 291 in about a year. I held that weight for a few years until I was told by literally one of the best weight loss doctors in the world that medications cannot defeat the "burn more calories than you take in" formula....period.
When I gained all that weight I was not eating processed food, or tons of processed sugar. I was eating what my body allowed, TONS of carbohydrates. Pasta, potatoes, rice, bread.....
Long story short....I took at least one 7.62x39 bullet to the lower abdomen while in Afghanistan in 2009.
It has been a long road back. Over 20 surgeries and many months in the hospital. (I have pictures but I dont want to get banned) :)
Part of my issue gaining weight besides the Prednisone was that a lot of my guts are gone. I do not process food like most others. The way my body processes food is to store a lot of fat. Thanks to great doctors everything works fine if you know what I mean. :(
Anyways, even with a body that constantly craves nutrition, I have lost over 80 of those pounds and am holding in the 210s...and still dropping. Eat less sugar, eat more protein and move a little and you WILL lose weight, even on medication. Luckily my lifestyle keeps me active.
Good luck on your journey, and use that CPAP machine. But seriously try to avoid too many medications. Just because a medication doesn't say it's physically addictive, it can become psychologically addicting.
 

Sig

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Pharmacological changes in body chemistry can and do affect the bodies abilities to do certain things. There is a reason there are side effects listed. Weight gain is a primary one. It has nothing to do with physics but chemistry. Mental health medication stores fat faster than it will burn off.
Im not being a prick, but you might want to fact check that. Medications that store fat faster, and in different places, CAN be overcome by "burn more calories than you take in".
 

georged

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Pharmacological changes in body chemistry can and do affect the bodies abilities to do certain things. There is a reason there are side effects listed. Weight gain is a primary one. It has nothing to do with physics but chemistry. Mental health medication stores fat faster than it will burn off.

You are conflating immutable physical laws with medicine bottle label catchphrases.

There is no substance in the known Universe which will cause body fat to be "stored faster than it will burn off".

It is 100% certain that if you were kept in a controlled environment (like a county jail, or something) where your body's daily caloric requirement to stay exactly the same size was NOT met, you would shrink.
 
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ziv

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You are conflating immutable physical laws with medicine bottle label catchphrases.

There is no substance in the known Universe which will cause body fat to be "stored faster than it will burn off".

It is 100% certain that if you were kept in a controlled environment (like a county jail, or something) where your body's daily caloric requirement to stay exactly the same size was NOT met, you would shrink.
Or you could say he could stop eating altogether. I once stopped eating for a month, survived on water only. Lost a bunch of weight, naturally, looked like a skeleton. Was it good for me, health wise? I'm not sure. Would I recommend it to just anyone? Absolutely not. It could very well do more harm than good.