Jim's C&D Sun Bear Navy Cask 2025 (Small Batch) Review.

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JimInks

Sultan of Smoke
Aug 31, 2012
70,137
801,843
This goes on sale August 5, at 6 p.m. EST.

The rugged 2018 Turkish Izmir and 2020 Thai Orientals provide a wealth of floralness, bitterly tart sourness, spice, smoke, incense, herbs, vegetation, earth, wood, bread, very mild tangy citrus, creamy buttery sweetness and light nuttiness as the lead components. The 2023 bright Virginia offers plenty of tart and tangy citrus, bread, vegetative grass, sour lemon, floralness, sugar, spice, and a little acidity as a supporting player. The 2017 red Virginia produces some tart and tangy citrus, earth, wood, bread, sugar, mild darker fruit, light floralness, spice, cream, and a slight hint of vinegar. It’s a couple of notches above the condiment line, and just misses supplying secondary support. The one year rum barrel aged raw wildflower honey contribute a fair amount of sweet and sour fruit, floralness, sugar, earth, and spice as the lead additives. The sweet rum is mildly noticeable as the raw wildflower honey owns the principal role for the toppings. The lightly fruity (berries, grapes), floral, herbal, acidic elderflower is just above being a condiment. The silver tequila adds light fruit. Overall, the toppings have a little more than a moderate effect on the proceedings although they slightly weaken by the last quarter of the pipe.

The strength is almost full and taste does reach that level. The nic-hit is a couple of notches past the center of medium to full. No chance of bite or harshness. Has a few light rough notes. The mildly moist broken flakes require no dry time although they do result in a slow burn rate. Your mileage may vary on this point. Well balanced with subtle and obvious complexity, it burns cool and clean with a mostly consistent sweet and sour, floral, herbal, spicy, mildly bitter, light acidic, creamy, smoky, savory flavor that extends to the pleasantly long lasting after taste. The sweet and sour, floral room notes are tolerable. Leaves little dampness in the bowl, and requires some relights. Not an all day smoke, but it is repeatable. This version is more floral and has a mildly stronger Oriental presence than the previous ones with a tad more variety of flavors. For the latter reason, I recommend a wide bowl and a medium one at most for this blend to capture those aspects. Four stars out of four.
©Jim Amash 2025.
 

Worknman

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 23, 2019
999
2,930
These days I only grab a maximum of 2 of anything, one for now and one for the cellar. I still have sun bear from 2019 so I imagine the cellared tin of this years iteration is going to be in hibernation for a while.
 

damacene

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jul 31, 2022
266
1,259
Los Angeles, CA
24 minutes waiting in the SP queue - scored a pound. Seems like there is a lot of demand for this one.
That was the longest I've ever had to wait on smoking pipes. I wonder if tobaccopipes and CupOJoes getting shut down influenced that. Got my pound as well as a couple of tins of Bijou because I've never had it before and wanted to compare it to the sun bear.
 

NC TX ID pipeman

Part of the Furniture Now
Dec 25, 2021
601
1,363
North Carolina,Texas,Idaho
That was the longest I've ever had to wait on smoking pipes. I wonder if tobaccopipes and CupOJoes getting shut down influenced that. Got my pound as well as a couple of tins of Bijou because I've never had it before and wanted to compare it to the sun bear.
I JUST contacted them around 4pm and made my tobacco order without wait.sunbear was in it- just 5 tins will do for me..i am local so will pick my order at their store 20 miles away without paying stupid excise tax..I hope you like this one
 

Manawydan

Part of the Furniture Now
Apr 24, 2024
506
3,430
Southern California, US
Sun Bear: Black Locust is one of my personal all-time faves and is my wife’s actual #1 fave. And we both have enjoyed various ‘barrel aged’ versions of great blends like Plum Pudding, Mississippi River, and Bengal Slices. As a result I was given the mandate to ‘acquire ten tins of Sun Bear Navy Cask!’. Mission accomplished.
 

folkleaf

Might Stick Around
Apr 22, 2025
70
914
Sun Bear: Black Locust is one of my personal all-time faves and is my wife’s actual #1 fave. And we both have enjoyed various ‘barrel aged’ versions of great blends like Plum Pudding, Mississippi River, and Bengal Slices. As a result I was given the mandate to ‘acquire ten tins of Sun Bear Navy Cask!’. Mission accomplished.
Love the Special Reserves
 
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sardonicus87

Lifer
Jun 28, 2022
1,818
16,252
38
Lower Alabama
24 minutes waiting in the SP queue - scored a pound. Seems like there is a lot of demand for this one.
This happens every time for the first half hour to hour of a limited release

Come in an hour late and you'll see no queue. That initial rush is a bunch of people all at once immediately spam refreshing within 0.01 ms of the release time, afraid they'll miss out.

The equivalent of panic buying goods after the news talks about a strike and thus causing the goods to be out-of-stock when nobody would have noticed if they just acted normal, there wouldn't have been one (can't find it, but there's an example of an unreasonable panic about toilet paper causing a rush that caused a real shortage that otherwise wouldn't have happened).

It's been a billion years at this point since a C&D small batch sold-out within 10 minutes.

Don't take the queue as a sign it's popular, it's a sign of people being stupid.

Like yeah, maybe don't wait 2 weeks to order, but you don't need to get in the door the second it opens.

That said, Sun Bear is a popular blend, but the queue is for the rush, not the popularity, and the rush happens any time a small batch is announced, regardless of how actually popular it is or will be or has been.
 

NookersTheCat

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 10, 2020
746
3,686
NEPA
I was on right at the start also and it was a pain just from the demand surge... but with it being now +4 hours from prime time drop and still in stock at multiple vendors it seems the 20k cans will be sufficient for anyone who reasonably wants it. In the blog post Jeremy basically said that this one and Carolina Red are basically the top 2 for demand by a pretty large margin vs the others.

@JimInks Good review! Would you say/do you know if they used more Red VA in it this year vs other iterations? (prob to bolster the cask sweetness) I remember it always being very bright/oriental forward but looks and seems a bit darker this year.

Either way I'm happy for one of my last favorite still in production smokes coming back around puffy