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stoopidbaits

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When you go to a restaurant make sure that you always ask for brand new cutlery ( hundreds, even thousands, have eaten using the ordinary ones provided) Not sure what the "regular" piece has to do with anything. Finally, if it makes you uncomfortable, don't feel obliged to buy an estate.
I own many estate pipes. However, in each instance the pipe was purchased from a reputable business which has restored and sanitized the pipe.

I would never judge someone for smoking an estate pipe, nor for digging their neighbors toothbrush out of the trash, giving it a good clean, and putting it right back into service!

Also, I would not patronize a restaurant that reuses porous material utensils. That would be the reddest of all the red flags in the whole red flag universe!
 
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stoopidbaits

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I like estates. Using a quality pipe made from materials mostly no longer used gives me great satisfaction. I initially clean my pipes exhaustively.

Toilets on the other hand are really disgusting if you think about it. When’s the last time the toilet was cleaned? How many people have used it since then?
I rarely put my mouth on a community toilet. Rarely.
 

stoopidbaits

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Don't buy one. There solved your issue. That will be $399.99. I charge per hour at a 1 hour minimum.
You seemed to have invented an issue i don't have?

I don't go to the zoo to become a monkey, but rather to observe the monkeys.

I have no concern that I might buy a used pipe nor any concern that you might.

Simply curious why people choose to do it. The answers are few and far between but the toothbrush rebristlers are proving themselves a sensitive lot.
 

Waning Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
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so just curious why estate pipes are popular.
Some brands, lines, and carvers are no longer making pipes and estates are the way to find them. They tend to be less expensive and there's no need of breaking in. That being said, many estates are unsmoked, and finding a new pipe that someone's mouth hasn't been on is rare.

Well having worked in quality and safety in the food manufacturing industry for many years, I can tell you there's a reason the USDA requires that I use stainless steel processing surfaces and not vulcanite or acrylic.
As have I at one point in my life and a reason I try not to eat processed food. The company I worked for had their USDA inspectors on salary if you take my meaning.
 
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sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
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I rarely put my mouth on a community toilet. Rarely.
Good to know. I have yet to try that, even rarely. How was the experience?

Would it be safe to assume that you're a virgin, or that any partners you're had were virgins, considering that you wouldn't put your mouth where anyone else has been? Were you the first person to live in your home, do you only buy new cars, bring a chair to sit on wherever you go, and wear gloves all day, not to mention a face mask? Air is reused, you know.

I buy both new and estates, have done so for over 50 years, and have yet to experience any ill effects from any estates that I have bought.

I love old Biitwood and have a particular fascination for family era Barlings, which haven't been made for over 60 years. Any estate I buy is thoroughly cleaned and disinfected by me, even if it's sold as having been cleaned by the seller. Any pipe I sell has also been thoroughly cleaned by me before I sell it and the buy is free to give it a going over.

So why are estates OK? Style, quality of work, price. I'm fussy about condition and won't buy something that can't be restored to near mint condition. Anything that I buy goes through several days of cleaning before it joins the stable, including a retort boiling alcohol treatment if needed. I'll leach out any stale oils, scrub out any stubborn deposits. I want that pipe as neutral as I can get it.

Since my oldest pipes are from the 1880's I assume that its original owner is long dead, and that's OK with me. But if any of them are still around, I'd love to know how they did it.
 
I’m going to have a bit of fun here.

Estate pipes are like your best friend’s ex, a no-go.

You want to smoke a dead man’s pipe and deal with his ghost?

Let me paint a picture, imagine a filthy, sweaty, smelly man with decaying teeth who eats sardines and never flosses. Now imagine his putrid breath exhalation slowly impregnating the briar with lung butter. Times that by 10 years. Gross. There is no sanitizing that.

I don’t like smelling bad breath and imagine years of bad breath being exhaled into the pipe. Mmmm, I think I want to warm that up and suck up fossilized bad breath vapor into my mouth. Gross.

I do have an estate Dunhill that I had to have. It’s been soaking in Everclear for three years.

Good thing i didn't just take a sip of coffee. Thanks for the morning chuckle! :P

Many of my pipes are estates. For me, it's mostly about value by miserdom rather than necessity. Either way, even when i buy a new pipe i sanitize the stem well with Everclear. Still no telling where that bit's been and i'm sure many a maker gives the pipe a few "whistles" during the finishing touches before sending it off to market. No biggie.
 
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Zeno Marx

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I'm confident that once I'm done cleaning an estate pipe, that if you did bacteria and virus cultures on it, you wouldn't find anymore cooties than you would from a new pipe having been handled at the factory, by various distributors, shipping departments, looky-lou customers, and whoever had touched it, the packaging, etc. I'm a lot of a germaphobe, so this is important to me. I have a pretty thorough process. I DO wish I had an ozone chamber, or access to one for a fee, because I would certainly use it for that last line of defense...but then that too is theoretical, because you could dip a pipe in bleach for a week and kill every living thing on it or in it, but then if someone with contaminated hands touched it after the fact, then you're sort of back to some square early in the process (not square one, but maybe square two or three).

There's more gross stuff on your phone, that you then eat food with those same hands, than a sanitized estate pipe has. and like mentioned, toilets...I've watched people in their homes wipe the entire bathroom, including the toilet and floor, with the same rag. Where do you draw the line? Estate pipes, in the grand scheme of things, fall way, way down my list of gross/problematic situations.

I buy vintage double-edge razors too, where there's washing, boiling, and an extended 91% ISO bath. I wear thrifted clothes (everything but socks and underwear), where there's a 3-wash cycle process of attempting sanitization.
 

anotherbob

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I would rather buy a new pipe then an estate, however the gross and ick is all psychological. Not only are they usually sanitized but time kills many things and tobacco smoke kills a lot too. If anything they're over cleaned in most cases. I doubt you could find one story of someone catching any illness from an estate pipe and probably even few that are a maybe. If it was a real worry it have come up here at least one time.
If it's ick to someone that's a deal breaker for them though.
For me an estate has to be something I can't get new or at least not with acceptable ease.
So to me if you can't get over it that's fine as long as you don't denigrate others for having a stronger stomach.
 
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Steddy

Lifer
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I'm sure a good toothbrush can be rebristled
This cracked me up, thanks for the laugh.

I’m realizing there is an untapped market.

Still Picky toothpicks.
Stubble Seasoned razors.
Clean Again sanitized pipe cleaners.
Re-spooled dental floss.
Unbitten pickles collected from diner’s plates.
Tissue paper used for picking, not blowing.
Lightly sipped Gatorade.
Dottle collection.