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Briar Lee

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When I was a kid I thought after those who believed in a 6,000 year old flat earth full of hoop snakes, witches, demons, and evil spirits in the graveyards all died off, that would be the end of that. Nobody believes in the Roman or Greek Gods. So they can be taught in the public schools.

Then about forty years ago as a new lawyer I was appointed guardian ad litem for a little boy whose parents were highly educated, long haired dirty hippies living in a commune.

They had a guru who was convincing college graduates the germ theory of disease was flawed, the moon landings were faked, and that most disease was caused by human consumption of dairy products, and all vaccinations were dangerous.

What floored me, just amazed me, was the judge seemed to have never been taught nor had read Extraordinary Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, or The True Believer, or Eichmann in Jerusalem.

I thought anybody who’d passed four years of college and three years of law school and was elected by the people to be a judge had been taught not to believe—-for one second—-instantly reject—-bullshit as a child.

But then I recalled why Pilate crucified our Master.


If you do not do this thing, we will tell Caesar you are not his friend.

And I got to know both parents. Other than being part of a hippie cult they were well raised, decent, truth seeking, moral, educated college graduates who drank from cisterns and shit in outhouses and didn’t take baths or vaccinate their children or take their children to doctors out of sone twisted pagan religion.

The father had enough good sense to actually take the kid to a doctor when he got a severe ear infection and promised to have the child get his shots.

The mother was the communal school teacher and had too much pride to reject the belief of the cult leader.

The judge didn’t want to lose any votes in the next election so he put the father in charge of decisions about the child’s health and the mother in charge of the child’s education and split custody.

My own mother was alive then.

I thanked her for my raising, and wondered what would become of that little boy, but you can’t change the world, you know?

My mother’s most illustrious and accomplished student was Alonzo Hamby.


In the second grade Lonnie Hamby knew that Collin Kelly II had only damaged a light cruiser and had not not sank a Japanese battleship in defense of the Philippines so Mama had Lonnie Hamby help her teach the other children.:)

I Colin Kelly - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Kelly

I still occasionally visit with Lonnie Hamby, and his theory about what’s wrong with America today is that the conspiracy theories about the assassination of JFK mainstreamed belief in superstitions, false beliefs and delusions, as Hamby calls bullshit.

But we both agree that those who do swallow bullshit were not taught as a child by their mothers to reject it.
 
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Briar Lee

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Thousands of them... And there are pictures to go with each case.

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About thirty years ago I was out in South Dakota pheasant hunting and the younger boys went to the strip joints in Colume and Winner and left me and my dentist alone on top of a high hill.

There’s no light pollution in central South Dakota. That October night was perfect, and the stars and planets and constellations were breathtaking.

I knew my dentist was an atheist and he knew I was a Christian.

He said to me, you know that’s all the result of a big bang and higher physics.

I lit a smoke and said Gee Doc, I wonder who lit the fuse?

He was silent, and then said you Cambellites are a stone cold cult, you know that don’t you?

I said we are, indeed.

Because of us, you know it’s almost two thousand years since our Master was born in a manger with all those stars overhead, Doc.:)
 

Briar Lee

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You can bulid straw men and argue with them all day long.

That won't change the fact that crop circles do exist and we don't know why.

What fascinates me, is the level of organizing and planning it must take for people to produce those crop circles.
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The Peruvian desert is famous for the Nazca Lines, a series of geoglyphs etched into the desert floor. These figures, created by the Nazca people, include geometric shapes, animal figures, and human-like forms. They are a UNESCO World Heritage site and continue to fascinate researchers with their scale and mystery.

Key aspects of the Nazca Lines:
    • Geoglyphs:
      The term "geoglyph" refers to designs made on the earth, typically by removing rocks or earth to create a contrasting image.
    • Location:
      The Nazca Lines are found in the Nazca Desert, a region on the southern coast of Peru.
    • Creation:
      The Nazca people, who lived in the area between 200 BC and 600 AD, are credited with creating these massive designs.
    • Famous Figures:
      Common designs include a monkey, spider, hummingbird, condor, and other animals, as well as various geometric shapes.
    • Scale:
      The lines cover an area of about 450 square kilometers, with some individual figures spanning hundreds of meters.
    • Discovery:
      The figures were largely hidden until the advent of aviation in the 1930s allowed for aerial observation.
    • Purpose:
      The exact purpose of the Nazca Lines remains a subject of debate, with theories ranging from astronomical and calendrical uses to ritualistic or even extraterrestrial explanations.
    • Modern Discoveries:
      Recent research using AI and drones has led to the discovery of hundreds of new geoglyphs, further expanding our understanding of this ancient landscape.
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When I was a little child my father was the Superintendent of the Elders of the Humansville Christian Church.

My Daddy had a rule. Nobody could do a special music show, unless they were paid $200 ($2,000 today) and an elder had previewed the show at another church.

One Sunday we went to church and there was a man and his family in a broken down station wagon. The people all drove past the man and I said Daddy, why don’t we stop and help, and he said Vannie we don’t want to be late for church.

When we got to church there was another man who had ragged clothes and said he needed a two dimes to use the pay phone and I gave him a couple quarters, I had for the collection plate.

After my Daddy stood up and did the greetings and the deaths and sicknesses and births among the congregation, he turned the service over to the preacher, who began taking about Lazarus and the rich man.

And then at a certain time, the special music act came onstage, which was the family in the station wagon and the bum begging for dimes.

I Want To Stroll Over Heaven With You


Whoever planned those crop circles was trying to get our attention, you know?
 
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BingBong

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How does something like this exist?

Was this made overnight, by people?

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It's stunning and meticulous, the peak crop circle - I remember when and my jaw dropped. The sheer scale of it. That was near Stonehenge.

If someone wanted our attention, they had it right then. But nobody claimed its creation.
 

Briar Lee

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It's stunning and meticulous, the peak crop circle - I remember when and my jaw dropped. The sheer scale of it. That was near Stonehenge.

If someone wanted our attention, they had it right then. But nobody claimed its creation.

Let’s suppose the atheists are correct.

We are not all the children of a benevolent God.

We are all formerly fish who crawled out of the water eons ago and grew legs and arms and then eventually learned to make clothes and later on airplanes, trains and hundreds of millions of cars and trucks with roads to drive them on.

If they are right, if we are all just clever mammals wearing clothes and wristwatches, then far away, in the heavens, there’s a good chance there’s another place where life accidentally happened, and those people could be a million or even a billion years more advanced than we are.


If that’s true, then they could load up the space buggy and go visit us, sort of like we visit a zoo.

No matter how much an alien mother warned her children not to, you know some alien would just have to toss us some food to see us fight over it, and they’d torment us and there’s no way they’d hide from us.

And, if they could see us, then we surely could see them, you know?



 
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Zzzapipe

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The aroma I'm smelling right now is that the further back in the timeline I go, the closer we are suppose to be to apes and neanderthals.

Yet, I'm also suppose to be that they were clever enough to make these and build pyramids.

(Both of which no one can replicate today - and if we are allowed to scrutinize the evidence before us - this is a fact.)

It also removes any notion that the civilizations before us had an level of sophistication or intelligence.


Do you smell it?
 
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The aroma I'm smelling right now is that the further back in the timeline I go, the closer we are suppose to be to apes and neanderthals.

Yet, I'm also suppose to be that they were clever enough to make these and build pyramids.

(Both of which no one can replicate today - and if we are allowed to scrutinize the evidence before us - this is a fact.)

It also removes any notion that the civilizations before us had an level of sophistication or intelligence.


Do you smell it?
We were never Neanderthals. Humans have had a direct lineage that separates us from apes today.
 

Zzzapipe

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I absolutely agree, interesting that they still continue to push Darwin for the school children.

The original people who pushed this first wave of BS haven’t issued a formal apology and in some schools, this is still being taught.

Imagine feeding bull shit to children.

No wonder we end up the way we do.

Was the good sheppard taking care of his flock when BS was being served to them ?
 

BingBong

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I've warmed to the idea of cyclic catastrophism. Humanity has been picking up the pieces since the last hammer blow, that's how it feels to me.

The further back in time, the deeper the layers in Egypt and other places, the finer the engineering, the bigger and bigger the stone blocks. I think Saqqara was the repository of pre-dynastic stone artifacts, hardstone vases and bowls with incredibly skilled manufacture, as if machined, the "inheritance" as it were. Stuff that would be challenging for our tech to make now, let alone any time in the last 5,000 or more years.
 
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Briar Lee

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I absolutely agree, interesting that they still continue to push Darwin for the school children.

The original people who pushed this first wave of BS haven’t issued a formal apology and in some schools, this is still being taught.

Imagine feeding bull shit to children.

No wonder we end up the way we do.

Was the good sheppard taking care of his flock when BS was being served to them ?

Let’s say that we Christians who follow our Master the best we can are correct, and each of us, every soul ever born, is a perfect child of God, and we are all brothers and sisters.

All our differences, every one, is in how we were raised, how well our mothers educated us, and the examples our fathers set for us, and our own free will.

No atheist can ever prove otherwise. God could have chosen to use the Big Bang to create the universe.

If a savage finds a crashed airplane in a remote jungle, the savage would assume it took many years to build it. But he’d be wrong if he thought aliens sent it.


The ultimate argument against an accidental evolutionary creation is that such a scheme depends on survival of the fittest. It’s dog eat dog, brother versus brother, watch out for old number one, and Ayn Rand was correct and Jesus Christ was wrong.

Our argument is that those of us who love the least of our brothers and sisters will live forever. Matthew 25:40.

For those that don’t love the lowly, it’s bad. Very bad. See Matthew 25:41-46.

I don’t have the courage to not, follow our Master.

If Christ was right on the Mount of Olives, it would get warmer in Hell than it is outside today.:)

Sing one Pretty Miss Norma Jean!

Tramp on the Street


If every soul ever born was truly afraid they’d burn in hell for abusing those less fortunate, a better world we’d have.

But there’d be a lot less lawyer work, for sure and certain.:)
 
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Let’s say that we Christians who follow our Master the best we can are correct, and each of us, every soul ever born, is a perfect child of God, and we are all brothers and sisters.

All our differences, every one, is in how we were raised, how well our mothers educated us, and the examples our fathers set for us, and our own free will.

No atheist can ever prove otherwise. God could have chosen to use the Big Bang to create the universe.

If a savage finds a crashed airplane in a remote jungle, the savage would assume it took many years to build it. But he’d be wrong if he thought aliens sent it.


The ultimate argument against an accidental evolutionary creation is that such a scheme depends on survival of the fittest. It’s dog eat dog, brother versus brother, watch out for old number one, and Ayn Rand was correct and Jesus Christ was wrong.

Our argument is that those of us who love the least of our brothers and sisters will live forever. Matthew 25:40.

For those that don’t love the lowly, it’s bad. Very bad. See Matthew 25:41-46.

I don’t have the courage to not, follow our Master.

If Christ was right on the Mount of Olives, it would get warmer in Hell than it is outside today.:)

Sing one Pretty Miss Norma Jean!

Tramp on the Street


If every soul ever born was truly afraid they’d burn in hell for abusing those less fortunate, a better world we’d have.

But there’d be a lot less lawyer work, for sure and certain.:)

Hey brother just wondering, which one of the 30,000 denominations of Christianity are you? And how do you know you are correct?

And how do you know that crop circles are man made?
 

Zzzapipe

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I've warmed to the idea of cyclic catastrophism. Humanity has been picking up the pieces since the last hammer blow, that's how it feels to me.

The further back in time, the deeper the layers in Egypt and other places, the finer the engineering, the bigger and bigger the stone blocks. I think Saqqara was the repository of pre-dynastic stone artifacts, hardstone vases and bowls with incredibly skilled manufacture, as if machined, the "inheritance" as it were. Stuff that would be challenging for our tech to make now, let alone any time in the last 5,000 or more years.
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A lot of the way I saw the world was through the books I read and classes I I took. I remember reading a book by Irving Stone called the Agony and the Ecstasy. In it, he
tells the story of Michelangelo and his life. The book stressed the physical agony that he endured while working, including the amount of marble chips that punctured his eyes.

I had to remember that this book was FICTION. I could not understand how a person with the level of skill to create these types of works, did not have a sliver of common sense and ingenuity to craft something to protect his eyes??

FICTION .

(I know these are not by “Michael “ but just that other artists had an amazing level of skill) and did it with dust in their eyes.
 
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We were never Neanderthals. Humans have had a direct lineage that separates us from apes today.
Well, Neanderthals were not low-level, they were a line of humanity that partly integrated with Sapiens before they dwindled to nothing. Most native white Europeans have 2%-6% Neanderthal heritage, something like that. It confers some benefits, apparently.
 
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