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Waning Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
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I have a Taurus TCP (.380 pocket pistol). The magazine kept getting released while it was in a Kydex holster with the release fully covered. Sent it back and they fixed it. Overall, not a great gun and I decided that I couldn’t trust my life to it.
There was a class action about the TCP's slide breaking mid fire.
 
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Sobrbiker

Lifer
Jan 7, 2023
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A Taurus PT92 followed me home. I think I'll keep it.😁
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Ive got the same in the safe, not a fave, but beats a Beretta* every time-I prefer the frame mounted safety on the PT92.

*Taurus 92’s are Berrettas technically. Brazil made Beretta set up a factory in country to furnish 92’s (with the safety reconfigured), and kept the factory when the contract was fulfilled.
 

georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
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Brazilian-made firearms (along with anything not made in the US, Belgium, Austria, Italy, or Germany) have always mystified me.

As in, it's difficult to imagine a device where the importance of excellent design and execution could be more important.

So why do people even consider them, never mind buy them? To save money?

The old joke that "nothing is more useless than an unloaded weapon when it is needed" comes to mind. Replace unloaded with "doesn't function," "breaks," or "is inaccurate when it does work" and it's the same joke.

Buy the best and cry only once.
 

Sig

Lifer
Jul 18, 2023
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Ive got the same in the safe, not a fave, but beats a Beretta* every time-I prefer the frame mounted safety on the PT92.

*Taurus 92’s are Berrettas technically. Brazil made Beretta set up a factory in country to furnish 92’s (with the safety reconfigured), and kept the factory when the contract was fulfilled.
Sure, but the Taurus is not the same as a 92 built in Italy or USA.
Taurus doesn't have the quality control or manufacturing components that Beretta uses.
An Italian made 92, even today are fine tuned machines compared to the Taurus clone.
The only thing in common is the Taurus are made on the same machines that Beretta left there 50 years ago. The handguns made by Beretta in Brazil years ago are mear shadows of the Italian or US made 92 of any year. From trigger assembly to metallurgy and finish, there couldn't be anything more different than an Italian made Beretta 92 and the Taurus clone.
In my experience. :)
 
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Sobrbiker

Lifer
Jan 7, 2023
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The couple of 92FS’s I’ve had ran without a hitch for thousands of rounds each.
The 92 isn’t my preference of platform and was only chosen by DOD to be the M9 because of Beretta’s lucrative support package, not on its individual merits as a sidearm. Name any JSOC unit that chose it for their sidearm since the start of the GWOT….

Then again, I should have kept my participation on a pipe smoking forum to pipe smoking😉