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brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
10,666
18,219
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Won't say where, but I saw this 5C Cavicchi estate for sale, and I'm dumbfounded. Look at that rim (zoom in on it). How can someone with the means and taste for fine pipes, burn the sh*t out of the rim of such a fine smoking instrument.

Sure, I get rim darkening happens, but to actually incinerate the rim, that has to take firm intention. Maybe I shouldn't judge, maybe the previous owner had arthritis, Parkinsons, what have you, and they couldn't help it. Or maybe it was a tech bro dingus who pays $1k for a bottle of Pappy. Regardless, it's a shame.

Part of the equation may be continuous, multiple relights...if it's someone who doesn't dry their tobacco much.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
18,416
33,504
47
Central PA a.k.a. State College
This is why I don't like pretty rims.
I have this Comoys Gold Bark that has a wide rim chocked full of 3D looking birdseye. I have smoked it a bunch because it's a great smoking pipe. But it's irritating to mind the rim constantly. I'm not too worried about it, but do take more care than normal.
But, after 100s of smokes, it definitely has it's battle wounds.
I just noticed this picture is an optical illusion....where is the rest of the pipe?...oooooooo :)
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and right after you say you don't like nose warmers. The stem is so short the rim hides it.
 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
12,878
20,473
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
How can someone with the means and taste for fine pipes, burn the sh*t out of the rim of such a fine smoking instrument.
It's a simple tool designed for a simple use. A hunk of wood not intended as an object of reverence. Some folks attribute mystical powers to their pipes. Some revere and, still others, simply smoke/enjoy them, maintain them and smoke them yet again. I'm in "simple tool" group.
 

Piping Abe

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 27, 2021
700
1,980
North Dakota, USA
There was a time when I had some rare and collectable pieces. I didn’t smoke them.

Eventually I decided I would only keep pipes that I smoked and did not want to be a collector. So I traded or sold them away. I should of kept them and smoked them, but thats besides the point.

So all of my pipes will be smoked. If I see a rare piece, and it is unsmoked and I feel like I wouldn’t smoke it, I will pass on it and let a collector appreciate it.
 

Zeri

Might Stick Around
Jan 16, 2025
63
550
Azores Islands, Portugal
If I own a $1000 pipe, it will get treated the same as a $10 corn cob. I smoke my pipes and I will go out and do yard work or anything with them, etc.
Just like with cars. Spend a fortune on a car just to keep it in a controled environment garage and just teke it out (on a trailer) to show it in some kind of festival once a year, for me it's like disrespecting the work of those who built it. It's an exotic, powerful car? Then burn the tires on the tarmac. Powerfull cars were made to use the power they have. Same with pipes.
 

Dshift

Lifer
Mar 28, 2025
1,251
6,348
Germany
ebay.us
View attachment 382011

Won't say where, but I saw this 5C Cavicchi estate for sale, and I'm dumbfounded. Look at that rim (zoom in on it). How can someone with the means and taste for fine pipes, burn the sh*t out of the rim of such a fine smoking instrument.

Sure, I get rim darkening happens, but to actually incinerate the rim, that has to take firm intention. Maybe I shouldn't judge, maybe the previous owner had arthritis, Parkinsons, what have you, and they couldn't help it. Or maybe it was a tech bro dingus who pays $1k for a bottle of Pappy. Regardless, it's a shame.
I can totally relate to this! When it comes to owning/collecting something expensive, that has an actual use, other than looking pretty on a shelf , I am of the opinion that you honor the item more if you actually use it. Ask my work pipe(a 50 years old silver spigot Pete) or my motorcycle that I am supposed to ride only to Starbucks, but instead we are happily rolling in the dirt.
P.S. Looking for a budget Thorens Single Claw lighter to be my daily driver :)
 
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Sig

Lifer
Jul 18, 2023
2,066
11,745
54
Western NY
Just like with cars. Spend a fortune on a car just to keep it in a controled environment garage and just teke it out (on a trailer) to show it in some kind of festival once a year, for me it's like disrespecting the work of those who built it. It's an exotic, powerful car? Then burn the tires on the tarmac. Powerfull cars were made to use the power they have. Same with pipes.
I agree with this to a point.
If you have a 1969 GTO Judge in Warwick Blue with the parchment interior, burning it up and letting it rust and corrode would be a real shame. Or taking your Shelby Mustang GT500 Super Snake to the drag strip could cost tens of thousands of dollars per burnout. :)
SOME of these cars need to be preserved for future generations to experience.....in my opinion.
But this should be left to the super rich. The rest of us can just build a "regular" 1969 GTO and have just as much fun. :)
 
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Zeri

Might Stick Around
Jan 16, 2025
63
550
Azores Islands, Portugal
I agree with this to a point.
If you have a 1969 GTO Judge in Warwick Blue with the parchment interior, burning it up and letting it rust and corrode would be a real shame. Or taking your Shelby Mustang GT500 Super Snake to the drag strip could cost tens of thousands of dollars per burnout. :)
SOME of these cars need to be preserved for future generations to experience.....in my opinion.
But this should be left to the super rich. The rest of us can just build a "regular" 1969 GTO and have just as much fun. :)
Of course it's a personal choice. Not that mine is best than any other.
But in my case I prefer to give objects the use they were intended for, but obviously in a responsible and accountable way, so they can endure and last long. But use it...usage wear/patina is the best thing about an old object. As I said before that's only my opinion. Not trying to make anyone change their opinions/beliefs.
 
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carp rides again

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jan 11, 2024
235
1,566
Lookout mountain ga
I find that most all my pipe rims end up like that, and I'm cautious to not char them while lighting them. I also do not own a cigar lighter. I think the charring comes from clenching the pipe and the smoke just rolls back over that area of the bowl. As someone else said, it's really prevalent in the 6-8 range
 
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Sigmund

Lifer
Sep 17, 2023
4,398
45,689
France
I admit I like nice looking pipes. I also tend to shy away from really light colored pipes for that reason
 

wyfbane

Lifer
Apr 26, 2013
6,712
12,591
Tennessee
There is use and there is use. I agree that rim char should be avoided. Yes, pipes are a tool or instrument. Tools are meant to be taken care of. The more expensive the pipe, relative to one's budget, is definitely also a factor. If you can drop 650 on a pipe each weekend, you have the luxury of blasting through them at will. There was a guy who would come into the Tacoma Tinderbox 1-2 times a year and get a Nording in the $100 range or so because he used a torch and just blasted through the sides of them. Can it be done? Obviously. Is that the preferred or prevalent way? No.

Do what you like, but I am in the take care of your stuff camp.
 

Sig

Lifer
Jul 18, 2023
2,066
11,745
54
Western NY
Of course it's a personal choice. Not that mine is best than any other.
But in my case I prefer to give objects the use they were intended for, but obviously in a responsible and accountable way, so they can endure and last long. But use it...usage wear/patina is the best thing about an old object. As I said before that's only my opinion. Not trying to make anyone change their opinions/beliefs.
100% agree.
I'd love to have that 69 GTO Judge in Warwick Blue!
I'd sell it immediately and spend that quarter of a million dollars on building driver cars for the rest of my life. Yes, one sold for over $300 000 also. If driven, it would be around $100,000 But I sure wouldn't drive it. :)
Same goes for pipes.
A few years ago a Bo Nordh pipe sold at auction for $30,000.
Again, I would love you have that pipe!.......to sell.....so I could buy a smoker pipe and build a driver car.
I own zero things I can't use.
But, I do understand that some things maybe should be kept perfect for historical value.
Years ago my brother and I found a 1966 Plymouth Belvedere with matching 426 Hemi street engine. It had been in a dirt floor barn sinse 1971. It had 27,000 original miles.
We put about $12,000 into it to get it back to factory. Everything was good, except the normal parts that corrode or dry rot with age.
Long story short. We were offered $75,000 for the car from a fellow car guy. We turned him down. I kept it here in WNY for a few years. Once the Northern climate took hold, I sent it to Albuquerque with my brother. He's been weekend driving it for a few years now and doing some car shows. It's now worth about $30,000. That's about the price of an original engine of that year. If it was still in 27,000 mile condition....it may be over $100,000.
Sometimes it doesn't pay to have nice things. :)
 
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