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dd57chevy

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Having contact with quite a few Brits here , I wondered if any might provide some insight into something I've noticed for a long time .

Watching movies , TV shows , etc ,I've noticed a peculiar aspect of older British architecture : There are boards on the outside of walls (interior and exterior).,,,,,,,,,is there a reason for this ? Is there a name for it ?

Tried to do a search but came up empty......

I know this question may seem a little (wait for it)....... off the wall , but I'm curious.........
 
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Briar Lee

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Those were used on barns and shotgun houses in the Ozarks too, a carryover from Olde Scotland.

Those horizontal boards are structural, nailed into the vertical studs.
 

chilllucky

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If this is an example of what you're asking about, then Sablebrush52 is correct. Tudor style, half-timbered construction is based on medieval timber framing. Instead of covering the frame with clapboard siding, they filled in the voids with wattle and daub or cob or plaster or whatever.

Without a picture, I can't be sure what Briar Lee is referring to, but I am certain that no horizontal board across the studs is structural or Scottish.

You would use continuous sheething today, or diagonal bracing historically to keep a stud wall from racking. A single horizontal board would just move the pivot point.

There is not a stud-framing tradition is Scottish building. At the time Scots were moving to the New World en masses, there were very few trees on the island, and just about all buildings were made of stone.
 

Briar Lee

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Hillbilly style barns and shotgun houses were fairly modern, anbd replaced log cabins. And thank God I only saw them out the truck windows when my Daddy drove over into Cedar County.

Here is a modern shotgun style house barn made by the Amish for $10,000 and delivered on a truck to your farm.

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That one has modern ribbed metal siding.

Now, imagine that siding was tar paper with boards. The roof is galvanized steel with boards (later rubber tires were added).

To make one there had to be a sawmill and a railroad within wagon distance.

It’s the same as Tudor style only across the ocean.

There were native oak two by fours (true measure) for studs and then on the outside store bought tar roofing paper secured by horizontal two by fours, and then inside there might be newspapers for insulator then paperboard walls with smaller trim piece or maybe even two by fours to secure the paperboard and it all braced the structure.

When Daddy took me to such places, I knew that if I didn’t come back home, my mother would surely kill him, another old Scottish tradition carried far over the ocean. Serious.

There are Scots, then Scots Irish. We were Scottish Ozark Americans.

Our mothers looked like movie stars, theirs waddled around swatting and yelling at all their children.

Our fathers kept packs of foxhounds, theirs kept coon dogs.

The Scots Irish would offer Daddy whiskey or beer and sometimes even me, and that’s why Mama made it clear, that I’d come back to her in as good a shape as she’d sent me.:)

On St Patrick’s Day our mothers would check our clothes to make sure we wore no green.

Because they didn’t want us to marry those Scotch Irish girls that expected a shotgun house and barn.:)

The fair Scottish lassie, the pretty Geraldines, she demanded a modern house. Serious.

If I make it to heaven, the first thing I’ll do is ask Mama if I can ride to Cain Hill with Daddy, to buy fence posts and wire at the sawmill.:)

Sing one, Tom T Hall

 
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pantsBoots

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but I am certain that no horizontal board across the studs is structural

It reduces the moment in a vertical member. It is absolutely structural, and a critical member of a frame.
You would use continuous sheething today, or diagonal bracing historically to keep a stud wall from racking. A single horizontal board would just move the pivot point.

A very American approach to framing. Diagonal bracing also transfers the pivot point. Ever wonder why American houses faire so poorly against, say, tornados and hurricane-force winds?
 

dd57chevy

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Half timbered, for the exposed portion. Popular during the Tudor era.
Thanks , the term "half-timbered" is what I was looking for .

Pretty sure placing these boards/timbers placed diagonally would give structural support .

Always wondered about basic lateral stability in buildings before plywood/OSB (any kind of sheeting).

Will do some more searching (Yea , I know , my OCD is showing) . 😁
 
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sablebrush52

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Thanks , the term "half-timbered" is what I was looking for .

Pretty sure placing these boards/timbers placed diagonally would give structural support .

Always wondered about basic lateral stability in buildings before plywood/OSB (any kind of sheeting).

Will do some more searching (Yea , I know , my OCD is showing) . 😁
Diagonals DO supply some stability, but layered sheeting supplies more. Strength and stability also relate to the type of stresses the structure is likely to be exposed. In earthquake country it's considered a good idea to bolt the home to it's foundation, lest the structure slide, fall, or bounce off of its foundation.
When I bought my home in Glendale, which was built in 1925, I bolted it to the foundation and installed cripple walls in the crawlspace. That sucker would ride out a good sized quake, but it would burn to the ground like a match stick if the nearby mountains caught fire. Again, depends on the nature of the risk.
 
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