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Lifer
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I'm confused, I thought all flavored tobacco was an aro. Im starting to get the impression it can be a non-aro but have a topping? If by aro it means smelling up the room a lot of blends have strong smells and say non-aro. Can someone clarify what the difference is?
 

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Aromatics used to just mean Latakia and orientals and is just a description for blends with added flavors now. What are the blends you are questioning?
Well like I have an English blend I believe it's Match Revelation might be Barking Dog or maybe both and I believe it's non-aromatic, but according to my wife and kids it has a huge smell to it like burnt wood, and it taste extremely smokey. So it has a smell and a flavor why isn't an aromatic? My Cult Blood has a smell and a taste of cherries. I know everything has a smell and a taste but bbq and cherries are both recognizable.
 
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Lifer
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All tobacco has a smell and flavor.
But they literally added the flavor with smoke. I mean yeah it's not artificial so okay. Seems like kind of a loose term. Again Im from cigars where its either natural or its flavored. I first thought English meant England like a Nicaragua Cigar means Nicaragua. And I thought that it was just pure tobacco. Kentucky Fired Cured Cigars are listed as flavored. I guess I'm just thinking wrong about it from what I'm used to.
 

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As Chasing pointed out, all tobacco has taste and smell.

SO, maybe we could say it this way, to help reduce the confusion of what is an Aromatic.

How about, a tobacco, with an added flavor, this is not naturally occurring in tobacco, or noticeable in large amounts.

Hazelnut could be added to a blend and turn it into an Aromatic, but Burley has nut like smells and tastes, so, for now, look at like fruits, cherry, plum, other flavors, vanilla, maple, etc...

I think for now, it’s just learning what flavors/profiles exist in natural tobacco, and what doesn’t, and those outside the spectrum of natural tobacco flavors added in, tend to make up Aromatics.

Hope this helps...
 

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Lifer
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I first thought English meant England like a Nicaragua Cigar means Nicaragua.

English does mean from England and Scotland, where these blends originated from hundred of years ago.

But today countries from all around the world make English blends.

There’s also another topic of confusion too, on what constituted an English or Balkan blend(s), something you might also read about later. LOL 😆

Don’t worry, you’ll get the hang of it, it’s not Rocket Science. LOL 😆

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English does mean from England and Scotland, where these blends originated from hundred of years ago.

But today countries from all around the world make English blends.

There’s also another topic of confusion too, on what constituted an English or Balkan blend(s), something you might also read about later. LOL 😆

Don’t worry, you’ll get the hang of it, it’s not Rocket Science. LOL 😆

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I'm glad it's nothing like cigars. I'm really enjoying learning something new and tasting something different. lol
 
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As stated above, you'll get the hang of it.

Personally, I consider the term aromatic to be little more than a marketing term. It can be a useful term when talking to others, especially when they insist the term has real merit, but I don't take it into consideration when deciding which tobacco to purchase and/or smoke.
 

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One of the more irritating things about this hobby, especially for newcomers, is that the marketing language used to describe the products and tobaccos in this hobby is utterly impoverished. Literal centuries of marketing gimmickry and legal hairsplitting have made it very difficult to actually be precise when talking about our favored leaf.

The aromatic vs. nonaromatic thing is a perfect example. As the smokingpipes.com article makes explicit, what is an aromatic is incredibly subjective. If we were to operate on the assumption that an aromatic is any tobacco that has added flavors not intrinsic to the tobacco itself, that may seem to be a useful line to draw. But in truth, it would essentially make nearly every pipe tobacco an aromatic, which considerably robs the term of its usefulness. For instance, a navy flake with a light rum topping would be definitionally the same as a black cavendish soaked in cherry flavoring. These two tobaccos are quite different in taste and composition from one another, so grouping them together categorically on the matter of artificial flavoring seems rather obtuse, especially when you consider that relatively few tobacco blends are entirely absent of some additional or artificial flavoring.

We see this level of imprecision in practically every other marketing category of so-called tobacco "families." Balkan blends are neither necessarily from the Balkans or follow a uniform standard, and orientals cover a very broad range of different leaves and flavor profiles, to list just two examples. So, what can we do about this?

I think all we can do roll with it and just work with common usage. For example, when a person tells you they like English blends, they are not typically referring to blends that are made in England or adhere to an old English law prohibiting added components. They are telling you, generally speaking, they like Latakia. Common usage is serviceable for general conversation, but can still be daunting for a newcomer. But it can be adopted over time fairly easily. It won't take long for any newcomer to figure out that what most people mean by aromatic blends are those blends that feature strong artificial flavors that are the primary, and not secondary or tertiary, flavor profile of that blend (e.g. Cult's Blood Red Moon is a cherry aromatic, and the cherry flavor is far stronger than the "natural" flavors of the tobaccos therein). But we are all humans, and we seek comfort in patterns and compartmentalization. I'm no exception to this, and I tend to, in my own common usage, subdivide aromatics into two groups: light and heavy. Light aromatics have artificial flavors, but they are secondary or tertiary flavors and not dominant (e.g. the plum flavoring in Royal Yacht, a Virginia blend). Heavy aromatics are the other way around, such as the aforementioned Blood Red Moon.

I suppose one can break down things by being precise by the specific kind of leaf, the manner in which it is prepared, and in what quantities it is put in any blend. For the purposes of formal reviews and expressing connoisseurship, that would be ideal. But that seems an overcorrection, because that is almost too precise, and requires a palate and pool of knowledge that is attainable by many years of experience and only appreciated by those with similar levels of experience. That's not a bad thing and is in many ways preferable to the terms given to us by marketing gurus. But it may be tough for everyone, newcomers especially, to readily grasp. The pipe tobacco connoisseur, such as they are, would not be able to give you a consistent answer to your question either, and some would-be gatekeepers of taste will sneer at aromatics as being a "lesser" tobacco. But that's another topic altogether.
 

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Lifer
Sep 23, 2022
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United States Of America
One of the more irritating things about this hobby, especially for newcomers, is that the marketing language used to describe the products and tobaccos in this hobby is utterly impoverished. Literal centuries of marketing gimmickry and legal hairsplitting have made it very difficult to actually be precise when talking about our favored leaf.

The aromatic vs. nonaromatic thing is a perfect example. As the smokingpipes.com article makes explicit, what is an aromatic is incredibly subjective. If we were to operate on the assumption that an aromatic is any tobacco that has added flavors not intrinsic to the tobacco itself, that may seem to be a useful line to draw. But in truth, it would essentially make nearly every pipe tobacco an aromatic, which considerably robs the term of its usefulness. For instance, a navy flake with a light rum topping would be definitionally the same as a black cavendish soaked in cherry flavoring. These two tobaccos are quite different in taste and composition from one another, so grouping them together categorically on the matter of artificial flavoring seems rather obtuse, especially when you consider that relatively few tobacco blends are entirely absent of some additional or artificial flavoring.

We see this level of imprecision in practically every other marketing category of so-called tobacco "families." Balkan blends are neither necessarily from the Balkans or follow a uniform standard, and orientals cover a very broad range of different leaves and flavor profiles, to list just two examples. So, what can we do about this?

I think all we can do roll with it and just work with common usage. For example, when a person tells you they like English blends, they are not typically referring to blends that are made in England or adhere to an old English law prohibiting added components. They are telling you, generally speaking, they like Latakia. Common usage is serviceable for general conversation, but can still be daunting for a newcomer. But it can be adopted over time fairly easily. It won't take long for any newcomer to figure out that what most people mean by aromatic blends are those blends that feature strong artificial flavors that are the primary, and not secondary or tertiary, flavor profile of that blend (e.g. Cult's Blood Red Moon is a cherry aromatic, and the cherry flavor is far stronger than the "natural" flavors of the tobaccos therein). But we are all humans, and we seek comfort in patterns and compartmentalization. I'm no exception to this, and I tend to, in my own common usage, subdivide aromatics into two groups: light and heavy. Light aromatics have artificial flavors, but they are secondary or tertiary flavors and not dominant (e.g. the plum flavoring in Royal Yacht, a Virginia blend). Heavy aromatics are the other way around, such as the aforementioned Blood Red Moon.

I suppose one can break down things by being precise by the specific kind of leaf, the manner in which it is prepared, and in what quantities it is put in any blend. For the purposes of formal reviews and expressing connoisseurship, that would be ideal. But that seems an overcorrection, because that is almost too precise, and requires a palate and pool of knowledge that is attainable by many years of experience and only appreciated by those with similar levels of experience. That's not a bad thing and is in many ways preferable to the terms given to us by marketing gurus. But it may be tough for everyone, newcomers especially, to readily grasp. The pipe tobacco connoisseur, such as they are, would not be able to give you a consistent answer to your question either, and some would-be gatekeepers of taste will sneer at aromatics as being a "lesser" tobacco. But that's another topic altogether.
After I read the article posted above that was my take! It's marketing they use it when ever however they want.