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Waning Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
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What can y’all tell me about this line? How does it compare to the Giubileo d’Oro’s? Major differences? Are they even a thing?

Thanks!
Seems to be a special reserve of stummels they've been holding back. Honestly though, other than appearance, I notice no difference between the Giubileo d'Oros and their lower lines.

Just noticed they have acrylic stems too.?
 

BarrelProof

Lifer
Mar 29, 2020
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The Last Frontier
And apparently a 315, as well. Bourbon buys are bad.

To be fair, I accidentally bought the 315 last night thinking it was the 316 and then bought the 316 this morning so it didn’t get away.

If I can’t return the 315 and end up with both of them, I guess I can find comfort in having bought a 315 on 3/15 and a 316 on 3/16? I guess that’s what I’ll tell myself, anyways...
 

didimauw

Moderator
Staff member
Jul 28, 2013
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What can y’all tell me about this line? How does it compare to the Giubileo d’Oro’s? Major differences? Are they even a thing?

Thanks!
Combining two conversations right now. And this is irrelevant, but I was looking into a Punto Oro, but heard of drilling flaws. For that price, I can get a commission that's drilled perfectly and made in the U.S.
 

ofafeather

Lifer
Apr 26, 2020
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Where NY, CT & MA meet
And apparently a 315, as well. Bourbon buys are bad.

To be fair, I accidentally bought the 315 last night thinking it was the 316 and then bought the 316 this morning so it didn’t get away.

If I can’t return the 315 and end up with both of them, I guess I can find comfort in having bought a 315 on 3/15 and a 316 on 3/16? I guess that’s what I’ll tell myself, anyways...
Doesn’t look like there are any 317’s so you may be safe for a bit...
 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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'Seems like vintage stummels are always surfacing. Pipe factories ought to keep better track of their materials. It sounds as if, if you look around a pipe factory, you'll find a bin of unfinished bowls tucked away somewhere. Ropp has a whole line of those, ongoing; I have one and it's a good little cooker.
 

alaskanpiper

Enabler in Chief
May 23, 2019
9,475
44,242
Alaska
'Seems like vintage stummels are always surfacing. Pipe factories ought to keep better track of their materials. It sounds as if, if you look around a pipe factory, you'll find a bin of unfinished bowls tucked away somewhere. Ropp has a whole line of those, ongoing; I have one and it's a good little cooker.
Sometimes it's chance, but most of the time It's marketing, most of them know exactly where the old stuff is. Whiskey distilleries do the same thing when they release 30 and 40 year old offerings, in order to make the customer feel as though they may never have the same opportunity again, to help them justify paying an ungodly amount for a bottle.

Just like Seattle Pipe Club "found" some special old leaf laying hidden on a shelf they used in Plum Pudding Special Reserve. Which they've been cranking out fresh batches of for how long now? Must have been one large stash of "found" leaf ?

Or how Budweiser labels say they "Know of no other beer that costs so much or takes so long to produce"

Or Knob Creek bourbon labels reading "Small Batch". At a few hundred thousand cases a year, that's small compared to what?

There is no other field of business more prone to mass open lying (unless you count politics as a business) than marketing. If it can't be proven untrue in the court of law, or rather if proving such a thing is too difficult or costly for anyone to take on in a court of law, companies are free to tell you whatever the hell they want about how their products came to be.
 
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BarrelProof

Lifer
Mar 29, 2020
2,701
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The Last Frontier
'Seems like vintage stummels are always surfacing. Pipe factories ought to keep better track of their materials. It sounds as if, if you look around a pipe factory, you'll find a bin of unfinished bowls tucked away somewhere. Ropp has a whole line of those, ongoing; I have one and it's a good little cooker.

I’ve read into them a bit more now that I (apparently) own two.

It sounds like this line is on the same level as the Giubileo d’Oros, only perhaps hand-selected by the man himself? I’m not sure if that’s true or just marketing jargon, to be fair.

Regardless, they’re absolutely stunning and, in spite of the price (and folly) associated with buying two of them, I’m not entirely upset about it, seeing how nice they look in photos.

From the description:

“Giancarlo Savinelli was born and lived breathing fragrance of briar, hearing about flaming and partridge eyes and seeing models and series born. Precisely for this reason, he can recognize the precious and unique grain of briar and the precious value of the time necessary to find these characteristics in a pipe. For more than 10 years we have been combining exceptional flaming pipe heads after having spent more than 150,000 briar sketches every year and the result of this selection was an extra restricted number of pieces divided into different models, worthy of being part of of this project. The VENATURA in the wood is valuable but technically more delicate in the various processing steps, even more rare on the predefined pipes, where the model must be respected for shape and size. The FLAME must be compact, linear, and normally originates from a fulcrum of partridge's eye. Simply presented with a black methacrylate mouthpiece: a classic and timeless beauty. Rare and unique pieces, selected personally by Giancarlo Savinelli, such as the silver signature on the mouthpiece.”

The 315:

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And the 316 KS:

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