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kola

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The water cleaning for pipes threads were pretty interesting. After that I ran an old beat up Peterson through a huge hi-temp 2 part commercial dishwasher at a casino restaurant. It came out clean. The stain was just about stripped away ad the vulcanite stem was faded to a grey color. The insides (and outsides) were clean as hell. I popped in the stem, packed a bowl and fired it up. It smoked nice. Overkilled it. :)
 

wolflarsen

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Can someone please provide a brief breakdown of the water flush process? Stem on or stem off for the flush and/or dry?
 
I think you were in that trainwreck thread, Cos. I could be wrong tho'... it was a long-ass read.
I just finished reading it, and I did get one post in... but, I'm glad that guy is gone.

Can someone please provide a brief breakdown of the water flush process? Stem on or stem off for the flush and/or dry?
There are lots of threads about this, and different members have different ways to go about it. I don't use very hot water, but some guys do. I just hold the pipe chamber to the spigot of the sink, run water through the pipe and out the stem for a few seconds. Then I use a wadded paper towel to ream out the chamber, take out the stem, and run a cleaner down the stem, and into the stummel. I then buff the pipe with a clean towel, rub the rim over a piece of leather, buff the stem a bit with a jeweler's cloth, reassemble, and rack the pipe.

I can do twelve pipes in just a few minutes, usually doing all of my pipes that I have smoked throughout the day at one time before bed. But, the pipes has a fresher smell, keeping the cake beaten back, and my pipes all look fantastic.

But, if this scares someone, or gives them anxiety... or if removing a stem terrifies someone, maybe avoid it.
 

diamondback

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Feb 22, 2019
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Well gee. After reading The Frank Thread it’s gonna mess up my pack because I’ll be thinking about it... you bunch of ashole ^%#}. Your moms use the Frank method! I won’t be bullied!

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jpmcwjr

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May 12, 2015
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I disagree... again... but, the beautiful part is that you are free to disagree too. Maybe your experiences with stains coming off through a layer of carnuba had some other factors going also. But, my experiences with water and my pipes, and I have some very fine pipes, some with no wax at all, were all very positive, and I am not as careful as John is with getting water on the outside.
I don't have any Baris, so I will just take your word on it.
Oh, no, John is not careful at all, as he gets hot water all over his pipes to no ill effect. He was just saying that if it's a concern, you don't need to get a drop on the exterior.

Some wax may come off, but they easily wiped/buffed to a good finish. The stems will dull, but a very light wipe with mineral oil and they are shiny black. (note: Not an extremely high gloss, but just fine for my druthers.)

No stain removal, and this across maybe 30+ different makes.
 
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Some wax may come off, but they easily wiped/buffed to a good finish.
If the wax comes off with water, something really messed up is going on, IMO. It is about the most waterproof thing there is. And, if buffed in, water alone shouldn't be able to remove it.
I don't use hot water, because I would have to wait five to ten minutes for the water to warm up in that particular sink. That, and warm water could possible speed the oxidation of the vulcanite, and I prefer to rinse my stems as well. Water alone seems to have no impact on oxidation of my stems, as mine have been kept looking as black as the day I got them.
And, I am not sure what benefit warm water would have over cool water. YMMV

The stems will dull, but a very light wipe with mineral oil and they are shiny black.
a light buff after each use with a polishing cloth keeps mine spiffy and black, without making them greasy, but YMMV also.

Lots of different approaches to doing the same thing. Once you get past the whole "water will hurt wood" thing, life gets easier.
 
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didimauw

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My highlight of the year was not a thread, but the lack of a particular thread. Oh there were some, but not as many in past years.

(Insert pirate emoji here)

Hahahahaa
 
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jpmcwjr

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I just finished reading it, and I did get one post in... but, I'm glad that guy is gone.


There are lots of threads about this, and different members have different ways to go about it. I don't use very hot water, but some guys do. I just hold the pipe chamber to the spigot of the sink, run water through the pipe and out the stem for a few seconds. Then I use a wadded paper towel to ream out the chamber, take out the stem, and run a cleaner down the stem, and into the stummel. I then buff the pipe with a clean towel, rub the rim over a piece of leather, buff the stem a bit with a jeweler's cloth, reassemble, and rack the pipe.

I can do twelve pipes in just a few minutes, usually doing all of my pipes that I have smoked throughout the day at one time before bed. But, the pipes has a fresher smell, keeping the cake beaten back, and my pipes all look fantastic.

But, if this scares someone, or gives them anxiety... or if removing a stem terrifies someone, maybe avoid it.

I started just this way, but now do not remove the stem, nor wipe the chamber nor run a cleaner through the airway unless there's some blockage. And I do 8-20 pipes at once, knocking the per pipe time spent to a minute or two. I use dish detergent and the mesh on a sponge to remove lava from the rim, and wipe with mineral oil to darken the now lightened rim, and mineral oil on the stem.

I do a deep cleaning every once in a while, removing the stem, checking the mortise and folding a cleaner and wiping it out. Reaming if needed; seldom.
 
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workman

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timt

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I remember it well. Debating on whether or not to join the forum, then the Frank thread happens. I was sitting at my computer, shaking and sweating all over the keyboard, wondering what I may be getting myself into. Good times.
 
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