Ye Olde UK Tins --- The Orphans And The Obscure

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This is a catchall for the more obscure or rare tins from smaller makers I've come across.
Some of them are very famous though, like the Presbyterian Mixture, seen here in very early form:

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Some of them suggest enough of a presence to do further research, like these from Thomas Bear & Sons of the Elephant Cavendish Works, but I haven't been able to find much info.

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Some are interesting just because, like Fairweather & Son, most noted nowadays for being where Charles Rattray worked before he struck out on his own at Perth in 1911.

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Some are interesting because of where they're from, like this Illingworth from Kendal, once a competitor with the Gawith Houses, but largely forgotten today.

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But most are simply curious evocative footnotes in the dusty rubble of tobacco past.
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jarit

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Jul 2, 2013
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Thanks for posting, very interesting manufacturers and tin art!
Now I know why S.Gawith's flake thickness vary so often. It must be "sword cut".

 

lochinvar

Lifer
Oct 22, 2013
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Very nice Troy. You're threads are always my favorite, it's like a mini time machine every time.

 

riffraff

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jan 8, 2014
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Awesome thread! Thank you. My wife is from Dundee and we are going back there later this year. I have already found out that Fairweather & Sons operated at 61 Murraygate in Dundee. Now I have a destination for a pipe history walk downtown. Entirely inspired by your post.

 

beefeater33

Lifer
Apr 14, 2014
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Thanks for this thread! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Quite a bit of history here..... Makes my mouth water wondering about these defunct blends.....(except for the spithead flake...what a name!... :crazy:

 

andystewart

Lifer
Jan 21, 2014
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Thanks Troy - fantastic historical interest, as always! I'd forgotten Weingott's was at 3 Fleet Steet; I walk past there most days, so will stop to have a look next time. I'm pretty sure there's a coffee shop now where the pipe shop and tobbaconist used to be, but I think the sign is still up. I'll check!
Andy

 
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Andy,

that's spectacular!

Glad to hear that the old sign is still up!
Here's a few more odd tins,

also featuring some cartridge packets,

a form which seemed to be all the rage for a brief time.
Here's an example of the cartridges from the 1928 Dunhill catalogue:

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jazz

Part of the Furniture Now
Feb 17, 2014
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Great thread. I was surprised to see Crosse & Blackwell among the tins with a tobacco called Soho Square. Growing up, all I knew of them was they made things like cooking sauces and condiments (the ubiquitous Branston pickle which I am still partial to). I had no idea they were once in the tobacco business. Upon further investigation it appears that in 1838, Edmund Crosse and Thomas Blackwell, Purchased Manor House in Soho Square. I presume that it is how that blend of tobacco got its name.
The Dunhill tobacco cartridges are most curious. I have never seen them before.
And of course I found this last addendum regarding Welsh tobacconist E. Morgan most fascinating given my location. With a little more probing I found this poem advertising Mr E. Morgan and his Amlwch tobaccos. First in Welsh with the following English translation.
Edward Morgan's "Hen Wlad"

I Amlwch am dabaco

Aed Gwyddel,Sais a Chymro

Ac yno gan E Morgan fad

Y Mae'r Hen Wlad diguro
At buro' awyr sylwch

A lladd clefydau coeliwch

Ne cheir drwy'r byd, does neb a wad

Fel mwg Hen Wlad o Amlwch
Ei glod a gan lafuwr

A thysio wnai pregethwr,

Nid oes tebyg i'r Hen Wlad

Amroi mwynhad i'r smygwr.
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Edward Morgan's "Old country"
To Amlwch for tobacco

The Irish,English and Welsh go,

And from E Morgan they buy

The unbeatable "old country"
For a sweet air

and to kill ills

throughout the world nothing is like

the smoke from Amlwch's "old country"
For praise spoken by

and witnessed by a preacher,

there is nothing like "old country"

to give pleasure to a smoker.
Anyway, Thanks for posting these.

 
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