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What Exactly Does a Lakeland Ghost Smell Like?

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  1. mikethompson

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    There is much talk when discussing estates of an infamous 'Lakeland ghost' haunting the stem and bowl. I recently got a Peterson with some ghosting in it and it got me thinking. The usual descriptor is not very helpful for a novice pipe smoker like myself.

    Any pointers? The only thing I can tell is that it smells much like my godfathers old pipes, which of course is no help to you.

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    I smoke some of the Lakelands scented blends, but I don't know how it presents as a ghost. The Lakelands essence has a definite floral quality to it. There are usually fruit notes as well. The topping varies from blend to blend. I also get the frequently mentioned soapy note but don't find it unpleasant. This is just the essence; the base tobaccos also contribute their flavors to the blend.

    It's harder to describe the flavor of a Lakelands blend than it is a garden variety aromatic, in my opinion. If you haven't ever tried a Lakelands blend, it's worth picking up an ounce of Kendal Flake and smoking it in a cob. Even if you end up hating it, you'll have a much better idea of whether you're tasting a Lakelands ghost in the future.

    The only thing I can tell is that it smells much like my godfathers old pipes

    That would make think more of codger burleys (Prince Albert, Half & Half, Mixture 79, etc.) or Lane aromatics than Lakelands, but it's impossible to diagnose over the internet.

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    Flower, perfume, soap. It’s quite unmistakable once you know the smell and taste.

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    Ever sniff a dog's butt?

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    When I saw the last poster, I knew what the comment would be like

    Its not entirely unpleasant this Peterson ghost, as I said it reminds me of my godfather.

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    It smells like teen spirit.

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    Floral glycerin soap.

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    Floral glycerin soap.

    This.

    When people say, "Lakelands taste like soap".

    This is what they mean, it has a smell like most scented hand soaps.

    Ever wash you hands with a strong floral soap, and then cup your hands over your nose and inhale deeply? That's what it's like.


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    Any aromatic ghost is a mess, especially if you don't intend to smoke aromatics or Lakeland aromatics in the pipe. Much ado about this is just the fact that we use Lakelands as a scapegoat on the forum, like a running gag... and by gag I mean Lakelands. Badoom Tissss

    But, really, aromatics tend to go deeper into the briar and pipe guts than any other tobaccos. Thus, Lakelands do.

    If you wonder what they taste like, they can range from banana to chocolate to vanilla to rose geranium which smells like those pink soaps in your grandma's bathroom in the shape of roses.

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    I recently bought an estate meerschaum, and its ghosted something fierce. Not with Lakelands, which I would welcome, but rather something that makes me think Lane 1-Q. Its horrible. Ive sanded the bowl down, scrubbed the stem with bristle pipe cleaners and toothpaste. Still there. Ive been smoking 1792 in it and I can still taste the ghost. If it doesnt dissapate soon I may have to smoke some Ennerdale in it before I give it the boot.

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    By no means did I infer an aversion to Lakelands. I love them. In order of genres, Lakelands are my second favorite.

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    @Joseph

    I can't believe I'm the one saying this, but have you tried running hot water through the bowl?

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    Ever sniff a dog's butt?

    Gosh, that's horrible

    Adhie was here
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    Ever sniff a dog's butt?

    When did Esoterica start making Lakelands?

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    Well it's definitely not a floral scent at all, and I'm thinking you are on the right track Spartan by mentioning the codger blends. Having not smoked much, if any burleys, that might be it.

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    If it smells more like baking spices, it could also be a deer tongue ghost.

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    There's a blend that smells like baking? Oh boy the baking game is dragging me back in again.

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    No I havnt run hot water through it, but when I get home from work I’m going to.

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    Ever sniff a dog's butt?-woodsroad

    Thanks a lot, woodsroad!

    Curious to see what Lakeland Ghosting is like, I called Old Yeller over, turned him toward the north while I went south. It took me 10-minutes to crawl up off the floor to type this!

    I won't be smoking Lakelands.

    Pipestud
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    Now that's going the extra mile! Presumably in the name of the science of tobaccos. My dogs sniff my butt from time to time, but so far I have resisted the urge to reciprocate and find out what's so fascinating about that.

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    Well jpmcwjr, I will do almost anything for the sake of tobacco science. I think I went too far this time though.

    Buttsnifferstud

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    I can see a new tag line for an estate that's not been cleaned very well: "Smells better than a dog's butt". Feel free to use my descriptor!

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    Speaking of butt sniffing, I tried in vain to convince Simon that a krumble kake called "Owl Pellet" would be a big seller.

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    Like heaven.

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    Like heaven.

    Yep

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    I can't believe I'm the one saying this, but have you tried running hot water through the bowl?

    Arrrrr, shiver me timbers! International Talk Like a Pirate Day is September the 19th!!!
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    I restore estate pipes from time and have had a few pipes with a nasty ghost. The hardest one to get rid of is a pipe primarily used for English or Balkan tobaccos so, a heavy Latakia ghost. Then after that it would be cheap burly tobacco's with cherry or a Vanilla casing. I have yet to find an estate pipe with a lake-land ghost.

    Also, I love most of the tobacco's that Gawith Hoggarth makes so I have a few pipes that I would say are now floral/herbal scented.
    I do smoke straight Virginas in a couple of my "Lake-land pipes" from time to time, And I will get floral/herbal notes of aroma & flavor but it dissipates after a few bowls.

    Mike, Does it smell Floral or herbal? If not I would guess that your pipe is ghosted with burly and some type of strong casing.
    Now to rid your pipe of the ghost.
    Ream you pipe back down to almost bare briar, then use coffee grounds in the bowl for a few days to absorb the nasty smell.
    Then after that do a rock salt alcohol treatment. to be safe.
    I have rid many a evil ghost by doing this method.
    I hope this info helps you

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    I know, I don't know what came over me.

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    Ream you pipe back down to almost bare briar, then use coffee grounds in the bowl for a few days to absorb the nasty smell.
    Then after that do a rock salt alcohol treatment. to be safe.
    I have rid many a evil ghost by doing this method.
    I hope this info helps you

    Jeffro, that is very much a help thank you! There is no cake in the Peterson in question, so nothing to ream. A good coffee ground soak sounds very interesting, I will have to try that out.

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    First I've heard of the coffee soak, sounds like an idea. I have heard of burying a Meerschaum in a jar of baking soda for a week or better to clean up a foul odor that was stubborn.

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    Packed it all with this mornings grounds, I will give it a day or two and see what happens.

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    Lakeland ghost smells like the Ghost of Avon Ladies Past (or passed).

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    Like Meemaw's knickers.

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    Crash, how exactly would you know what that smells like?

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    I've never smoked a Lakeland aromatic, but I've heard them described as smelling like grandma's bath mat, by detractors. People who like them experience them as a special floral scent that makes every smoke special, I'd guess. With aromatics, I like tobacco forward, where the flavoring brings up the tobacco taste and scent.

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    It tastes like a urinal cake mixed in with your dead grand ma's undies. A fine flavor indeed.

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    I have never understood the urinal/old lady comparison. It is floral, but more like walking into a green house where the plants are in full bloom over perfume. My glycerin soap reference was for the old translucent red soaps that smelled of real roses from decades ago.

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    The Lakeland ghost smells great. So do the tobaccos.

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    I always thought the Lakelands ghost was more floral, and this thread confirmed it. I guess what I was smelling was more of a burley ghost. I'm hoping the coffee grounds trick works out.

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    The Lakeland ghost smells great. So do the tobaccos.

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    Damn straight, mate! I don't understand how people can't like those tobaccos. But hey, to each their preferences.

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    Lake Land essence smells like my home! Its a wonderful taste/smell and yes it does taste like Fairy Washing Up liquid but if you grew up smoking the stuff everything else tastes like smoking Water Vole droppings or inhaling squirrel farts!

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    Then, your house smells real good!

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  44. cosmicfolklore

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    Technically, a Lakeland (or a Kendall) can be any flavoring from vanilla to banana to rose geranium. But, when we say Lakeland’s on here, we tend to stereotype it into just that rose geranium or Tonga bean flavor, which discounts 80% of the other Lakeland scents.

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    Thanks for the clarification, Cosmic. I'd be willing to try any Lakeland scent. I have thoroughly enjoyed the few I have acquired. mikethompson, you should know better than to ask that.

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    Kendal Gold Banana is actually a really good blend. It's shag cut can make it burn fast, but at a slow pace, it's cool and sweet.

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