What Do You Have To Say About Deer Tongue?

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swilly

Starting to Get Obsessed
Oct 19, 2011
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For the longest time I was confused about what "deer tongue" was. I thought that actual deer tongue was being put into tobacco. I went online and found that "deer tongue" is actually a chemical called Coumarin, and it was actually banned as a food additive in several countries since the mid-20th century (FDA banned it in the 1954). Evidently this chemical is an "immediate precursor" to rat poison.
Looking at the the chemical structure, the only difference is where there is an additional hydroxide group.
Deer Tongue:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coumarin
Rat Poison

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-hydroxycoumarins
Sorry to point this out, but this is what I discovered, but thankfully, Coumarin is harmless in low concentrations.
That said, is this stuff tasty? I read that it's kind of a substitute for vanilla flavouring.
-Swilly

 

brewshooter

Lifer
Jun 2, 2011
1,658
4
Well, to be a little clearer, deer tonque isn't just a nice name for a chemical, it's an actual plant. You might note from that Wikipedia entry that the chemical component is also common in tonka bean...watch out you 1792 Flake lovers!!!!
Oh wait, that's me!!!!

 

pstlpkr

Lifer
Dec 14, 2009
9,694
31
Birmingham, AL
It's not something that I would recommend you go find in the forest and add to your tobacco.

Go to Google Images and search deer tongue.

There are very many plants that go by that moniker.

 

sjpipesmoker

Lifer
Apr 17, 2011
1,071
2
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papipeguy

Lifer
Jul 31, 2010
15,778
39
Bethlehem, Pa.
Deer tongue has been used in tobacco for a very long time. The original Half&Half had it among many others. I smoke C&D'd Gentleman Caller quite often and I really like it. Great room note, to me. It does ghost a pipe so I dedicate one of my Stanwells to it. It is getting scarce and I understand that Craig Tarler holds as much as he can find because of it.

 

rigmedic1

Lifer
May 29, 2011
3,896
76
Only thing I have tried with it is C&D Crooner. Yuck. It has a kinda minty taste, reminds me of menthol cigarettes. Did not care for it, and cannot give the stuff away.

 

cortezattic

Lifer
Nov 19, 2009
15,147
7,641
Chicago, IL
IMHO most blenders put too much deertongue in the blend. There are a couple of good blends that exercise some restraint,

and in these it really shines: H&H's Capitol Stairs and 4noggin's MOJO
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:crazy: I don't think this means a thing in terms of being hazardous...

Evidently this chemical is an "immediate precursor" to rat poison.

Looking at the the chemical structure, the only difference is where there is an additional hydroxide group.

 

billm67

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 23, 2011
111
12
Camp Hill, PA
I smoke a blend called Belvedere from Wingenroth's Pipe shop that has Deer Tongue in it. I really like it my my wife really complains when I light it up in the house....

 

sparroa

Lifer
Dec 8, 2010
1,466
4
I'd like to try deer tongue sometime but I am not interested enough to put any blends to the top of my TAD list.

 
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