The new FDA rules have put me out of business.

pipeinhand

Lifer

Sep 23, 2011

1,198

0

Virginia

• May 9, 2016

• #1

We can not deal with the new regs so as of tomorrow Jack Lee Blend tobacco company will be no more. We are now closed and no more orders will be taken. Thank you all for your support and wonderful comments. I will miss blending for everyone and hearing all your thoughts on the blends.
The government has won and the screaming mommy's rejoice.

 

woodsroad

Lifer

Oct 10, 2013

11,798

16,174

SE PA USA

• May 9, 2016

• #2

You are giving up way too soon.

 

JimInks

Sultan of Smoke

Aug 31, 2012

61,283

564,135

• May 9, 2016

• #3

I agree with Woodsroad.

 

perdurabo

Lifer

Jun 3, 2015

3,305

1,575

• May 9, 2016

• #4

Has an FDA Agent appeared at your front doorstep? Did you show him that he doesn't have a partnership in your business? I'd look into a private protection agency. I'm sure some retired Seals would love to help you out. I'm being dead serious. Don't give into tyranny, Even crony FreeMarket tyranny. Fight. Fight. Fight.

 

skraps

Part of the Furniture Now

Sep 9, 2015

790

5

• May 9, 2016

• #5

Agree 100% with Dan... way, way, way too soon to give up.

 

pappymac

Lifer

Feb 26, 2015

3,305

4,362

• May 9, 2016

• #6

From what I've read you could stay in business for two more years before the regs affected you.

 

ssjones

Moderator

Staff member

May 11, 2011

18,444

11,353

Maryland

postimg.cc

• May 10, 2016

• #7

I never knew you were just down the road in Warrenton VA.

 

woodsroad

Lifer

Oct 10, 2013

11,798

16,174

SE PA USA

• May 10, 2016

• #8

Have you really researched what it will cost you to get legal? The SE may be more viable than it appears. The regulations hint that the FDA sees all pipe tobacco as being similar. Find a predicate and file. Of course, this is going to create a huge new market for pre-2007 tobacco blends that can be used as a basis for SE!

 

iamn8

Lifer

Sep 8, 2014

4,248

14

Moody, AL

• May 10, 2016

• #9

It seems the days of government supporting and encouraging businesses is over, in all arenas, but tobacco especially so. Sad days.

 

peckinpahhombre

Lifer

Dec 24, 2012

7,195

456

• May 10, 2016

• #10

Too bad. You should hang in there, as Dan suggests.

I'd look into a private protection agency. I'm sure some retired Seals would love to help you out. I'm being dead serious.

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Are you for real? Dead may just be where one would end up if you try that approach, or at least in prison.

 

S

shotime

Starting to Get Obsessed

Jan 15, 2016

138

0

• May 10, 2016

• #11

Hang in there, do not gave up that what they want.

 

pipeinhand

Lifer

Sep 23, 2011

1,198

0

Virginia

• May 10, 2016

• #12

I have considered all of that. Here is the thing. I do not have the money to fight any legal battles. ALL of my blends are after 2012. Two years can be shorted by a vote tomorrow. There are yearly and semi-yearly costs (business, and state tobacco fees that coincide with this point in time) I am talking nearly $1000 just to stay in business today; before 1 more ounce is sold. All that comes out of my pocket. This has always been a boutique business for me because I love doing it. Add this storm coming, I can't do it. Lets say I drop the 1K and in 6 months everything becomes in force. I'm out with no recap at all. You see where I come from? I had breakfast with a Vape owner 2 days ago, he is thinking of closing also. When the thumb on you shuts out all light, you succumb.
Sure Al, we were at JB Hayes in Winchester about 2 years ago and I told you. How soon we forget...

 

cosmicfolklore

Lifer

Aug 9, 2013

34,000

75,782

Between the Heart of Alabama and Hot Springs NC

• May 10, 2016

• #13

Where are your blends? I just did a www search and couldn't find a source for Jack Lee Blend tobacco.

 

demetrakopoulos

Starting to Get Obsessed

Dec 1, 2015

110

1

Chicago, Illinois

• May 10, 2016

• #14

It's a shame that politics get so out of hand that honest small business owners have to close their doors, and it has little to no effect on the bigger corporations.

 

jacks6

Lifer

May 9, 2016

1,005

3

• May 10, 2016

• #15

I wish the government could see how this is affecting small business' livelihood. I'm sorry to hear this is happening so soon.

 

mso489

Lifer

Feb 21, 2013

41,210

60,459

• May 10, 2016

• #16

I'd hold off to see how all this interpreted and enforced, and if some of the big outfits who have legal capability gain back some concessions for everyone. I understand if the revenue stream is shut off, you can't run a business, but if necessary you could put the business on hold (I know this sounds hollow but ...) and wait to see how things shake out. Could you revive discontinued blends from the past? There may be ways for individual businesses to adapt in a legal way. Things look impossible and terminal now, but the discussion has only just begun. We hope.

 

ssjones

Moderator

Staff member

May 11, 2011

18,444

11,353

Maryland

postimg.cc

• May 10, 2016

• #17

Sure Al, we were at JB Hayes in Winchester about 2 years ago and I told you. How soon we forget... []

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Ah, of course. I'm terrible putting real names to forum screennames. We're overdue for a JB Hayes night.

 

clickklick

Lifer

May 5, 2014

1,700

212

• May 10, 2016

• #18

Try a gofundme page to raise the 1k you need?

 

edgreen

Lifer

Aug 28, 2013

3,581

15

• May 10, 2016

• #19

I actually really like clickklick's idea.

I wish the government could see how this is affecting small business' livelihood

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You really think they don't?

 

S

stoker

Starting to Get Obsessed

Nov 19, 2014

190

1

• May 10, 2016

• #20

There really ought to be an exemption for boutiques and small businesses.