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Stonehenge Flake: My Favorite Dissapointment

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  1. mackeson

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    First I'll say that I give this 5/5 stars for my personal taste and 5/5 for an as advertised, flavored VA/Per/Bur.

    a few years ago, I became aware of this (then) not available blend and was bummed I would not get to try this product of collaboration between two of my favorite blenders. When SF was re-released, I was excited as could be. My mistake was reading reviews. People talked about "That Lakeland flavor," some with love, some with hate. I was happy since I enjoy that flavor. I bought a few tins and quickly opened one, dried it a bit, and packed it into one of my Rum Flake pipes. I smoked it many different ways through 4 bowls in 4 different pipes -the final one being my meer- trying to tease out some of the floral notes. Nothing. I was thoroughly disappointed. I kept smoking it, resigned to the fact that there was no floral note (that I could detect), but enjoying the VA flavors and Perique fruitiness more and more. I also couldn't get over how well the cocoa was done, very rich but not overpowering and probably enhanced by the burleys. Yum! I enjoy this blend very much and will continue buying and smoking the heck out of it.
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    Interesting. The Lakeland essence is very present, though not overpowering, in the Stonehenge flake that I smoked.

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    I am smoking it now and can detect no Lakeland scent. Though, my regular smokes are Ennerdale Flake, Coniston Cut Plug, and Bosun Cut Plug so my tongue might be dulled to it.

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    I usually don't leave tobacco in the tin once I open it, but for some reason I experimented with a tin of Stonehenge. I smoked nearly the whole tin without jarring it. The thing I noticed, was that the longer it sat in the tin the stronger the lakeland became. I still taste all the other flavours in there, but in the last few smokes the lakeland has been front and center.

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    my regular smokes are Ennerdale Flake, Coniston Cut Plug, and Bosun Cut Plug so my tongue might be dulled to it.

    I also like Ennerdale and occasionally smoke Bosun when the mood strikes so that may explain why I don't notice it as much

    The thing I noticed, was that the longer it sat in the tin the stronger the lakeland became.

    I'll try that with the next tin I open. Thanks for the tip!

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    I have a tin of SF and find the 'Lakeland essence' to be barely perceptible. It is there but (thankfully) well hidden.

    "The thing I noticed, was that the longer it sat in the tin the stronger the lakeland became."

    Well that's the first I ever heard of Lakeland essence getting stronger over time! Usually the opposite applies.

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    I thought it would dissipate. I don’t mind the flavour at all, but maybe it’s because I’m aware of it that I can’t help but notice it.
    Cheers

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    I’m not sure what to think. The buzz for this one never dragged me in, so I ended up buying more of the other new stuff going on at the time. It was literally in my shopping cart, as I saw this. I’m not sure what to think. I don’t mind a little Lakeland in some of the darker deeper, steroid laden leafs of Macedonia and such. I’ve never taken to the more floral lighter varieties of Kendal’s. I’m curious, but not “may have to dump it in the rose garden compost bin” curious. Do I trust the Dark Lord on this one?

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    I too was dragged into buying this after reading so much about its pending arrival but what disappointed me most about the blend was the addition of cocoa...if you're going to make a VaPer style blend then do so but leave out the cocoa.

    I understand some folks love that aspect of it but to me it spoils it. Why bloody cocoa for goodness sake?

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    I like Stonehenge's taste and room note and tin note. I just don't get back to it often enough because I'm a Black Frigate junky, among a few other things.

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    I had another bowl this morning and noticed the cocoa has diminished somewhat over the short time I've had the blend which for me is a good thing...now to try and find the Perique that is supposed to be in there

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    Is it true that Stonehenge Flake is just repackaged GH Louisiana Perique Flake?

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    Is it true that Stonehenge Flake is just repackaged GH Louisiana Perique Flake?

    No. They don't taste remotely alike.

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    The ability to taste different flavors varies from person to person. For me, the Lakeland, Perique, burley, Virginia, and cocoa flavors are all distinct, present, and accounted for. But there are other blends where I don't pick up the notes that others say they're experiencing. Not everyone has a palate of equal breath or sensitivity.

    So if you really don't like this stuff feel free to send it to me. Really. I won't mind.

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    Are you sure I mean the TR sure make it sound like that's the case. http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend/1739/g-l-pease-stonehenge-flake

    I cant imagine this being sold as a GLP blend thought to be honest but description sounds the same

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    Are you sure I mean the TR sure make it sound like that's the case.

    Yes, I'm sure. I have that from the horse's mouth. Which horse I will not say. Besides, they don't taste the same. There are a handful of people on TR who's knowledge I've cone to respect. The rest range from harmless to positively witless. One of the best reviewers is here on this forum, JimInks. Ask him.

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    "Is it true that Stonehenge Flake is just repackaged GH Louisiana Perique Flake?"

    Nope, they look, feel and more importantly taste very different.

    "to be honest but description sounds the same"

    Stonehenge Flake: Contents Burley, Perique, Virginia

    Louisiana Flake: Contents Perique, Virginia

    So how is that the same description?

    Besides, I thought you were the forum expert on all things Samuel Gawith and Gawith & Hoggarth

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    I'm not a Lakeland smoker, but I have to ask, is everyone designating pipes so as not to ghost pipes used for other blends? Lakeland aros are the only blends I'd worry about. Lat and aro's don't ghost enough to matter to me, or might even impart an extra tincture to some other blends. But I don't think I'd like the floral soapiness tinging most other blends. Assume designating a Lakelands aro pipe is pro forma?

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    Besides, I thought you were the forum expert on all things Samuel Gawith and Gawith & Hoggarth

    did you read any of the comments about the blends being identical on tobaccoreviews?

    is everyone designating pipes

    in my experience ghosting is a myth. I wouldn't smoke ennerdale before I smoke st james flake in the same pipe. I find mostly that latakia blends ghost by dulling the flavor. Obviously guys who smoked Erinmore everyday for 50 years those pipes are ghosted

    Louisiana Perique Flake is ok but I don't find chocolate to be a good topping for Virginia

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    I love this stuff in my Nording Freehand. It's a hoss and smokes great and cool.

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    in my experience ghosting is a myth

    Smoke Crooner or another deertongue blend in a pipe. It never comes out.

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    Yea agreed but that's a different ingredient all together

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    You just said ghosting is a myth.

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    You just said ghosting is a myth.

    Have you ever seen a ghost?

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    Yea but deer tongue isn't tobacco

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    Neither are the flavoring agents used in Lakelands or the smoke used to flavor Latakia.

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    Have you ever seen a ghost?

    Yep, grew some this year.

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    Neither are the flavoring agents used in Lakelands or the smoke used to flavor Latakia.

    true yes but those are oils the deertongue in crooner is actually plant matter, and a significant percentage of the blend

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    Very little deetongue is used in blends, or it would overpower everything else.

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    You used crooner as an example

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    Yep, and not a high percentage in it. Looking at a jar of it right now.

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    Opened the jar, and only two flecks of deetongue on top. It's used sparingly so as to not sublimate the flavor of the tobacco.

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    hey what'd you do take out all the deer tongue and eat it there, bambi?

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    Nope, just hasn't been much in it since I've been buying it, Thumper.

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    I hate that stuff. smokes like grape nuts. my friend said it smelled amazing

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    Have to smoke it really slow. It always gave me an apple/cinnamon sort of thing.

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    So tell me about the myth of estate pipes being intractably infused with 1Q and Lakeland.

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    Woods, those pipes look more like something else when horribly wrong, than just a ghost. Ha ha. But yes, ghosting is real. But, mostly it takes more than just a few bowls of something to really set a ghost in. And, if you really hated the scent of something, you probably don't want to taste even a hint of it in the next few pipefulls of a blend you do like. So, some pipes just get crushed under a boot heal.

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    "my friend said it smelled amazing"

    You have a friend? Amazing!

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    ^^^

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    Funny how your relationship to a blend can change over time. Sometimes aging can improve a blend, and sometimes evolving taste can bring a blend into focus. Or sometimes it just takes a while to figure out a blend has real qualities. We can compare it to the wrong alternate blends or misunderstand it at first. Blends you won't consider can be surprisingly pleasing if sampled, like at a pipe show or shop. (I know, sampling is on the way out.)

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    Same as marriages and all sorts of relationships, what is the number one cause of problems?.. expectations. If something doesn't meet or stops meeting our expectations, we dump them. Or, as expectations change or evolve, blends can come back into focus for us.

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    Well this thread has been much more entertaining than I ever expected.

    And little Sir John and the nut brown bowl proved the strongest man at last
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    Nice ghost peppers, Duane.

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    You have a friend? Amazing!
    Regards,
    Jay.

    mansniff, it was a while back.

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    I want to know what mansniff is sniffing.

    "These are ghosts that are more at home in a girdle-filled drawer than one of my pipes." Quote by Neil Archer Roan on lakeland ghosts
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    I want to know what mansniff is sniffing.

    I don't. I REALLY don't

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    Nice ghost peppers, Duane.

    They turned out great. Tried some reapers, but they didn't grow very well.

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