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  1. cigrmaster

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    Years ago I used to smoke this stuff and really liked it. For some reason I kind of forgot about it but recently I have been pounding away at it, smoking it once a day. I have gone through a couple of tins already and have a bunch of tins in stock with more coming. I am going to be loading up on this one even though it is pricey. It is right up there with Escudo as being one of my go to vaper flakes but it is different. It is sweeter and less spicy than Escudo. The description says it is topped with honey, which makes sense because it is very sweet, but not too sweet. It is high quality Virginia for sure, and the flakes are gorgeous. What I really love is the stuff comes at the perfect humidity so no need of drying and it has no bite at all. If anyone is looking to expand their vaper blends, I highly recommend this one.

    Harris
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    Sounds good; I've always wondered where it ranked in the Va/per pantheon... I tend towards the spicier side of thing but it is nice to have a nice sweet VA dominant one for a change.

    I've got a tin with over a year's age on it, I should get a couple more - one fresh, the rest to save. I still haven't tried it, I just ordered some on other people's recommendations and I've been sitting on it ever since...

    You are right that the price leaves a lot to be desired but if you like it, it's definitely worth it.

    PS: When I was new I didn't given the proper moisture level the respect it deserves. I've since learned it is probably one of the most important factors regarding flavour and enjoyment of the smoke - and I'm not talking goopy versus dry, but the big differences in taste to be had by drying/dehydrating just a few degrees...

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    sparroa, you should crack the tin you have and check it out. I think you will be quite surprised at how tasty it is. I think once you try it you will be ordering more. It does have plenty of Perique to balance the sweetness, but not like Escudo where the Perique kind of dominates the Virginia.

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    For comparison, here's a list of Va/Pers, in preferred order, done by a guy who's been on a mission for years to find the best Va/Per in the world:

    1) McConnell Scottish Cake
    2) Samuel Gawith’s St. James Flake
    3) GL Pease Tribute
    4) Escudo
    5) GL Pease Triple Play
    6) GL Pease Filmore
    7) Former’s Straight Grain Flake
    #8 H & H AJ’s VaPer
    9) Low Country’s Waccamaw
    10) Peretti’s Park Square
    11) John Patton’s Cool Hand Fluke
    12) H & H Rolando’s Own
    13) H & H Anniversary Kake
    14) G & H Louisiana Flake
    15) C & D Poplar Camp
    16) Dunhill Elizabethan Mixture
    17) C & D Night Train
    18) H & H Louisiana Red
    19) C & D Bayou Morning Flake
    20) Reiner’s Long Golden Flake
    21) Treasures of Ireland - Limerick
    22) Dorchester
    23) Solani #633
    24) Luxury Bullseye Flake
    25) McClelland Bulk 2015
    26) GL Pease Telegraph Hill
    27) Kajun Kake
    28) Luxury Navy Flake
    29) Dan Tobacco's Tordenskjold Virginia Slices

    Of course, everyone's MMV, but I found it not only interesting (at first blush, seems to me this guy really LOVES Perique) but I was also surprised that the prices of each vary considerably and prices have nothing to do with the order selected.

    Edited: I changed the #8. The programming reads the characters " 8 " and " ) " together as.. e.g. , L.

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    Thanks for the advice cigrmaster - I will crack it one of those days, I still have so much on my plate and a new order on the way. lol Until I do I'll keep reminding myself how I'm missing out.

    Solani 633 certainly sounds good but I am a little Perique-biased; I'm one of those that wants a little more spice than Escudo offers. (Though I love its balance for the most part)

    rothnh, I've seen that list many times and I've used his reviews as my early Virginia-Perique buying guide. Unfortunately, a lot of those aren't available to me but I do have number 1,2,4,6, and 23 in my cellar...

    I don't currently have any access to H&H blends because of shipping concerns but Anni Kake, AJs Vaper, and Louisiana Red are big dots on my radar... Rolando's Own I haven't read much about.

    I'm surprised to see Triple Play in the list; it seems too unconventional to be a Va/per and I don't really have any interest in trying it though I am a Pease fan.

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    Didn't mean to seem to hijack the thread, but like I noted, I posted this "favorite Va/Pers" list for comparison and conversation. I, too, have only tried some of these over the years, maybe a quarter or so. This list of his is from 2011.

    It's interesting that pipers who are passionate about Va/Pers often have such differing opinions, not only regarding favorites, but which Virginias/Va blends to use, how much Perique is optimal and even arguing if there is any Perique in "this one" at all!

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    I hate to hijack the thread, too, but I figured this would be a good place to ask a question about VA/Per flakes. I prefer my VA/Per flakes on the sweeter side and was planning a TAD order that was entirely comprised of good VA/Per Flakes and based on your review, Cigrmaster, I'm adding two tins of Solani 633 to the order. Do you have anymore recommendations on VA/Per flakes that have a sweet Virginia base that have a light Perique flavor?

    Steve

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    If I may suggest a a few "sweeter" choices:

    SG St. James Flake, Reiner's LGF, Rattray's Hal O' the Wynd and Orlik Golden Sliced -- in descending order of strength IMO.

    If you don't mind jarring it and waiting a couple years, McClelland 2015 is a very good choice, comes in bulk and is relatively inexpensive.

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    I was able to make the pipe show after all. I picked up two tins of Solani 633. At $10 a tin maybe I should have bought more.

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    Nice score, GW

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    FWIW, the Tribute is now available as Cornell & Diehl's First Responders Blend. P&C has it http://pipesandcigars.com/coditinfirep.html

    Many think it's to die for, but I haven't tried it yet. On my list, though.

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    rothnh, I think the Reiner is good but the burley in it gives it a flavor that in my opinion detracts from the perique. Orlick says it has perique but I cannot detect it and I have been smoking it for years, it is a nice blend but I don't consider it a vaper in the regular sense. St James is an all world vaper and I have multiple pounds of that in the cellar. I don't smoke Rattray's or Mclellend products due to the bite I get from them.

    Galeon, a nice light and sweet vaper that is a curly cut is the Wessex Sovereign Curly Cut. Very sweet and not an overpowering perique presence.

    I am just starting to test a tin of Wessex Brigade with Perique, I have only smoked one bowl so nothing to report yet. It does have promise though.

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    Solani 633 is on sale at P&C at 9 something a tin, or less if you buy 5. Pretty good deal I would say.

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    I bought my last ten tins from P&C, no one has a better price. I will be grabbing another 10 next week for sure. My plan is to buy 10 tins a month for a while. 5 years from now this stuff will probably be going for 25 plus a tin.

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    Its odd, the 100g tins of 633 are ready to smoke but the 50g tins are usually very moist and requires drying time. It is a wonderful Vaper, you should definitely try it if you have not. It is on my regular smokes list.

    As for St. James Flake, it sucks. No one should buy it.

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    a light Perique flavor?

    Heresy!

    Just kidding.


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    mrenglish, where are you getting 100 gram tins of 633? I have looked all over and the only one who lists it that way is Mars and they never have it in stock, plus their price is high. It is cheaper to buy 2 50 gram tins from P&C than it is buying a 100 from them. I would love to be buying 100 gram tins, I used to buy it that way years ago. I don't find the 50's to be too moist at all, so far the 2 I have smoked have been very nice humidity wise.

    On the Wessex Brigade with Perique front after a second bowl of it, I am definitely going to be stocking up. It has a real rich flavor, nice and sweet with some nice perique nose to it. It has no bite, comes in a broken flake for easy packing and the moisture content is not too high. One more vaper to add to the rotation.

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    cigrmaster, I purchased the 100g Solani 633 at Smokingpipes.com. There price has come down a bit as well. It used to be something like $23 a tin and last I checked it was just below $20. I need to pick up some 50g for my smoking, I jarred up the 100g tins.

    I will have to try the Wessex Brigade, I might have a tin of it but it seems our tastes are similar, so I will probably like this one.

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    Mike, I must be blind, I checked that site earlier and missed it. I just figured out that if I order 10 100 gram tins from them, it is a tad more than 20 50 gram tins from P&C. I would rather have the 50 gram tins because they are vacuum sealed and I like the smaller tins for taking with me and for long term storage.

    We do have similar tastes so I would be surprised if you didn't like the Wessex. If you haven't tried them yet, their Brigade Campaign Dark Flake and their Brown Virginia are also very tasty. I stock both in my cellar. Not too crazy about their Red virginia, it is a little bitey.

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    Never tried Solani but Louisiana Red is good stuff.

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    I just tried this for the first time last night. This was from a sample I received in my SS. The tobacco was a bit dry so I'm not sure if the flavor was accurate. I believe that perhaps the honey topping had evaporated/dried out. I rehydrate it a touch so the flakes were just pliable. The initial light was very easy. The first third of the bowl produced a superb creamy textures smoke with just just a little spice and an earthy flavor of oats. The creaminess dissipated a bit throughout the rest if the bowl but overall a good smoke. I found myself wanting more sweetness and perique flavor in this blend. Also, this is light in the nic department. A tasty smoke, not very complex. The lack of vitamin N will keep me from having this as a regular smoke, but will he good for those who prefer less kick.

    On a side note, I just saw rothnh va/per list above for the first time and found it interesting. I just recently opened up #1 on his list, the McConnell Scottish Cake and indeed enjoyed the first couple bowls. That one is quite sweet and good 'N' kick. I have to make my own list when I get more experience but I fell his #1 will be high up on my list as well.

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    It's been years since I smoked the blend, but every time I did so I just loved it!

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    Sorry guys but I had to bring back this thread. I am smoking it right now and it is incredible indeed. It has some age on it (2012) and was gifted by a generous forum member. How can one make a perfect blend like this? Experience? Coincidence? I don't know, but thanks for this blend, both the blender and the generous forum member.

    Javan
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    I have tried it a few times. I don't know why, but the tin aroma puts me off. And as it translates in the taste, I gave it up. Which is really too bad as Solani (R.W. Will) makes very good quality tobaccos.

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    Guyrox, I don't get any smell. Maybe aging has helped.

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    I like it fresh, but found aged 633 is even better. I still have two tins from 2002 and one from 2004 that I keep meaning to open. The Virginias get better and the perique in this blend does not diminish as it ages.

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    I love 633. It was the first Va/per I ever smoked. Cant wait to see what happens when my stash has a few years years on it. I love the tin note, which reminds me of figs and hay, and find the taste translation incredibly satisfying.

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    ZOMBIE THREAD!! This is DEF a favorite of mine. It's a top 10 tobacco. I can't imagine any va/per fans not loving 633.

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    Totally agree with you guys.

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    I have gotten into this tobacco recently but only have the 50g tins. I recall someone saying something about the 100g Solani tins not being fully sealed and hence not suitable for ageing. Is this correct?

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    Styler: That is correct. The tobacco in the 100 grams tins are in a little bag, and is not vacuum sealed.

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    Thank you for the conformation Jim. I'll stick to purchasing the 50g tins.

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    Gentlemen, How would you rate Rattrays Old Gowrie as far I'm informed is this light perique mixture and not too high in nicotine,referring to fact that this particular blend contains Kentucky dark fired
    then we have that sweet and light ready Rubbed perique mixture made by German microblender HU tobacco, might be worth to try,

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    Also how would this compare to something like Viprati?

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    Been smoking this for a few days. Lovely stuff.

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    It is indeed great stuff. And the 660 is really good too - though not a VaPer

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    Solani 633 is the real man's VaPer, ripped and grilled heart of a lion with some sea salt and pepper on it over oakwood, something that Gods couldn't smoke and sent to Earth for real pipe smokers. Solani 633 is the reason why Lucifer was kicked out of Heaven.

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    I've got a 50g tin of it sitting here for 5 months probably and still haven't gotten around to opening it. Maybe this weekend.

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    One of my favorites!

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    So, I have maybe 50 or 60 jars - this thread made me go get the 633 jar. Glad I did, I remembered I liked it - but it IS really good.

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    I find Solani 633 being higher in nicotine than say Orlik Golden

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    I still haven't opened my tin yet. I did pop open a tin of McClelland St. James Woods though that's pretty darn good. Once I finish this tin and a tin of Robert McConnell scottish flake I'll be popping my tin of 633.

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    I have 100 grams on the way....

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    jvnshr
    [quote]Solani 633 is the real man's VaPer, ripped and grilled heart of a lion with some sea salt and pepper on it over oakwood, something that Gods couldn't smoke and sent to Earth for real pipe smokers. Solani 633 is the reason why Lucifer was kicked out of Heaven.[quote]
    You got that rite, 633 is some serious shit !! I'm getting heavy Perique up front...very little sweetness. Escudo is a pussy cat compared to 633.......I assumed this was a mild, sweet Virginia with Perique in the background. Definitely not what I'm getting. Although this is a fresh tin and maybe some jar time is needed smooth it out a little........

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    Very good indeed....Very spicy in the beginning but smoothing out mid bowl..very nice.

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    WOW... it's un-believable what a couple of days in a jar makes!! All the reviews ( good ones anyway ) I've read are accurate, creamy, sweetness, Perique not overdone is what I'm enjoying now. SVF + SSF are going to be at hand all the time !!

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    This is my favourite tobacco at the present and has been since I tried it in the summer. There is something about these Solani blends that I love. Really good stuff.

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    A blast from the past. Glad you guys are enjoying the 633. I have a batch from 2002 that is a pepper bomb. I don't know if they put a lot more Perique in back then, but today it is one spicy a meat ball.

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    Harris, I agree with you that older 633 had more perique. I also notice that it hardly, if at all, diminishes with time.

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    I just opened a tin from 2012. It's a very nice smoke with a good peppery hit.

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    633 is one of the smoothest, medium-flavored VA/Periques that I've smoked.

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    I smoked PS LBF the other day, and lighted a bowl of Solani 633 from 2012 right after that. It has tasted better than ever.

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    I got a tin from 2013 at the NASPC show last year and just opened it last week.
    I've gone through several fresh tins previously.. a few years really smooths it out I think. The tin note is fantastic.

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    Yes, I know this is an old thread, but it seems appropriate since I'm smoking some Solani 633 that is five years old. This blows my socks off. I love aged VaPers, but this is so good!!

    Great thread!!

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    That's good to know. All I've smoked is less than a year old but It's still one of my favorite and most heavily stocked blends.

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    and currently available in 100g tins at Smoking Pipes

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