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Rocky Patel Prohibition Pure & Simple

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  1. jeffro

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    I just received a email from pipes&cigars introducing that Rocky Patel Co. is now selling pipe tobacco.

    The first blend is called Prohibition Pure & Simple it comes in a glass 12.oz jar and is an aeromatic.

    The components are Black Cavendish,Burley,Virginia and cased with vanilla and caramel essences.

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    I wonder if this new pipe tobacco is exclusive to pipes&cigars of if any tobacconist that sells Rocky Patel products will sell this tobacco also?
    I also wonder who is making this for Rocky Patel is it Sutliff, Consolidated Cigar Corporation, Lane limited, MacBaren?

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    I got the same email and it told us nothing about the blend other than the best part was the jar it came in LOL
    Now that I know it's strictly aromatic with no cigar leaf, I plan to take a pass on it. I don't know why these cigar guys keep coming out with aromatic pipe tobacco with no cigar leaf in it...makes absolutely NO sense to me.

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    And my guess would be Sutliff. They make a lot of P&C blends from what I've seen.

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    Thanks for posting this. I wanted to buy it thinking it would be a cigar blend.

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    Lasttango, seriously. Gurkha, Macanudo, CAO, a slew of others, now Rocky Patel. And not a drop of cigar leaf. Crazy.

    I did take some CAO Moontrance pipe tobacco and crumbled in a Moontrance cigarillo into it and let it sit for six months....gotta tell ya, I loved it.

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    Rocky is in the middle of a fight with the FDA (Federal Government) over the Obama deeming regulations which do not exempt "premium" cigars. Interesting that he would start selling blends at this time. He mentioned nothing about it in a TV interview last night.

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    Interesting that he would start selling blends at this time. He mentioned nothing about it in a TV interview last night.

    Coincidental timing, making hay while the sun is still shining or?

    "We have an unspoken, mutual understanding to ignore the things we hate about each other so we can continue to enjoy the things we love about each other."
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    Rock Patels are ubiquitous in the same way as Gurkhas. I admit to being a cigar snob and would buy neither, let alone some jarred Cavendish surprise pipe tobacco. Yech!

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  9. lazar

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    Agreed. If this tobacco is of the same quality as RP cigars, I will pass.

    This is just lame: "Since Rocky already had jars for his Prohibition cigars, he thought that it would be a great way to present this new blend."

    So they got some unused jars they already had lying around, and found a way to sell 1Q for $40 a lb!

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    Given how many cigars he makes and how many he has sold, he should stick ti what he knows. Besides, the guy must be a gazillionaire!

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    So they got some unused jars they already had lying around, and found a way to sell 1Q for $40 a lb!

    SUCH a CYNIC!

    But, yeah, probably.

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  12. lazar

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    SUCH a CYNIC!

    But, yeah, probably.

    Hey, they volunteered the info about the jars - I just extrapolated the 1Q part. Their marketing dept. really missed an opportunity to write something like, "these beautifully designed, hand-etched jars are specially engineered to keep this specific one-of-a-kind premium tobacco in perfect smoking condition...."

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    Thought I'd give it a try, picked up 3 jars

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    What the heck I like Aeros

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    I laughed out loud at lazar's post, to funny. But I have serious respect for Rocky Patel, not a huge fan of his cigars but he markets them and sells them like none other.

    I actually thought the pipe tobacco was a joke, but if any one actually does pick it up, please share your thoughts. I'm happy to live vicariously through them.

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    He mentioned nothing about it in a TV interview last night.
    I saw that interview. He mentioned these regulations are practically a prohibition. Hence the name I guess.

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    Patels same as Gurkhas ? Come on now Yeah he's a galzillionaire cause he makes really fine cigars. Gurkhas are cigar internationals house blend jmho

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    I don't care for their cigars and really dislike aromatics.

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    Agreed. If this tobacco is of the same quality as RP cigars, I will pass.
    This is just lame: "Since Rocky already had jars for his Prohibition cigars, he thought that it would be a great way to present this new blend."
    So they got some unused jars they already had lying around, and found a way to sell 1Q for $40 a lb!

    Agree...Tried a number of cigars and did not impress me. Great Salesman.

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    I admitted I was a cigar snob.

    But any maker with a gazillion cigars in their line, to my mind, is about sales, not quality.

    Fuente has many cigars in their line, but probably a quarter or a third as many as these guys, and from what I read their quality control is relentless.

    The only thing I like about CI is Cigarbid. Other than that they are just another soulless corporate entity chasing the money.

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  21. lazar

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    Patel is basically Gurkha Jr. The flood the market with yard gars marketed as premiums, then have massive sales on overly-inflated prices to sucker people in to thinking they're getting a great deal.

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    Funny. I'm no cigar snob and I do like Rocky Patels. But I wouldn't cross the street for a free Gurkha.
    Are there better cigars? Of course, but you will never see me popping $20 or more on a cigar. I don't care how good it is.
    I'd rather buy a half pound of pipe tobacco and smoke for days....

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    I like the Rocky Patell Cigars, I actually met the guy at an event in Bucharest - believe it or not he came in person to Romania, of all places. Not a big fan of aros, but I would be more than glad to buy a jar ... any u guys have any clue if they market it in Europe as well?

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    I saw this last night too...PASS!

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    you will never see me popping $20 or more on a cigar. I don't care how good it is. I'd rather buy a half pound of pipe tobacco and smoke for days....

    Me, too. But there are so many good cigars in the $2-$3 (on cbid) that are much better than anything I've tried from RP. Bueso Genesis, Villiger Colorado, and Sosa Classic to name 3 off the top of my head. Even the lower range Fuentes are light years ahead. IMHO, of course.

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    I like RP's Decade cigars, but that's about it.

    Long time cigar smoker here, and yes, I'm probably a cigar snob.

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    I really like the Guhrka Ninjas, but it's about the only one that I thought was worth a flip.

    Talking to the Lane Rep at The Briary, the reason there are so many cigar named blends full of vanilla tobacco is that they are way that Lane is getting around the FDA regs to release new blends. They use cigar names that are already on the books, and then Lane is releasing some of their new vanilla concoctions under their names. Even he seemed to think it was ludicrous. But, they sell.
    I agree that if they were going to use the cigar names, why not a new cigar blend. But, apparently non aromatics and especially cigar blends are money toilets. They don't sell worth a flip. It is still somewhere over 90% of all of The Briary's sales are aromatics. And, I still perk up if I hear someone come in and ask about a non-aromatic. It's so damned rare to meet someone who doesn't want a vanilla or fruity tobacco. And, even Russ says that aromatics are the basis for all online sales for them. I suppose that wine coolers probably out sale premium wines by a longshot also.

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    Funny. I'm no cigar snob and I do like Rocky Patels. But I wouldn't cross the street for a free Gurkha.

    I feel the same way; The Edge and Vintage lines sit high in my regard.

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    According to pipesandcigars:

    Aromatic pipe tobaccos make up more than 95% of all pipe tobacco sold.

    Talking about the Lane, aromatics and cigar leaf based blends; I would like mention that Lane Andullo is a great blend

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    civilwar, after you sample it for a week or two, tell us what you think. The proof is in the puffing.

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    Javan, I just had to look that one up to see whaqt it was...

    Dominican Republic cigar leaf is tightly bunched for two years to create a dark and flavorful tobacco that has been smoked as pipe tobacco in the Dominican for a long time.

    That totally intrigues me, but then...
    The folks at Lane Limited got their hands on some of this rich leaf and combined it with a good amount of silky black Cavendish to add smoothness to the blend, and finished it with a touch of Latakia to add depth and complexity.

    Damn, so they take some fantastic cigar leaf that has been smoked for ages by folks, and they go and mess it up in typical Lane style?

    I mean, I will probably still try it, but it's labelled as an aromatic. Is it a flavored aro-latakia crossover? Is the flavoring obvious?

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    If I want to smoke a cigar, I smoke a cigar. And I do prefer Rocky Patel over Gurkhas but developed a taste for Gurkha Seduction.

    I am glad we have a good admin and responsible moderators.

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    Michael, can't agree more with you. It is like saying "I had a good wine from 1986, I added some sugar and orange juice and made a sangria with it."
    I don't know why but I liked that blend even before smoking it. Andullo sounds exotic and very Latin American to me. Like when you sit with some friends and someone says "I have a friend coming, her name is Isabella, she is going to be here soon." And you know that Isabella is going to be really attractive.
    Dominican cigar leaf has a different taste, nothing like I have ever smoked before. Latakia is here and there from time to time, but not very obvious. And the cavendish; you were right, they messed it up in typical Lane style. I can even get a similar taste to 1Q from this one (probably because of the Cavendish and topping). I just see this blend as an upgraded and cigar leaf added aromatic. It can be an all day smoke and can be puffed non-stop. Here is a short video about Andullo (how it is twisted and cut):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTEvVwpCKpc

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    Regarding the cigars, I have smoked Rocky Patel Connecticut and Platinum so far, Connecticut is a meh cigar, Platinum on the other hand was very tasty box-pressed cigar with lots of flavors (chocolate, coffee, earth, wood, vanilla). I have a RP Decade sitting in my humidor for more that 2 years, waiting for a special event to smoke that one.
    Gurkha has some decent cigars in my opinion. Gurkha Crest for instance, is leathery, earthy and toasty with very rich and flavorful notes. I also tried Gurkha Warpig, it was a nice cigar (deserves 4 stars out of 5 IMO).

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    I see cigar leaf for what it is at face value. It is a color cured, fermented burley, sure and simple. It is an ingredient that can be used in anything. Saying that they are strictly for cigars is like saying that Red Virginias are strictly for cigarettes, because it is a leaf that is processed for cigarettes which has sort of crossed over. Or, like saying that peppers are strictly for chili.

    It is a leaf that can be blend to make new things, and I always tell people who ask about cigar leaf blends that if you expect a cigar, buy a cigar, but if you want something completely different give a cigar leaf blend a try. Because there is no way to get a cigar effect from the pipe. But, if it does add texture, deeper rich flavors, and strength to blends, with subtle nuances of flavors that can be played with by blenders.

    Now Gurkha Ninjas... if you like a strong robust dark leaf, this one will sneak up on you, ha ha. My only complaint is that they are too small. Just went I am settling into my chair, it's gone. I keep a few in the humidor at all times. I highly recommend them.

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  36. lazar

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    Well said on the cigar leaf, Cosmic.

    As for the Lane "cigar" blends, La Gloria Cubana and Punch seem to be regular English blends, and Partagas is a crossover. But yeah, Cohiba, Hoyo, and Macanudo all sound like bog-standard vanilla aros. I'm guessing at least one of them is 1Q.

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    civilwar, after you sample it for a week or two, tell us what you think. The proof is in the puffing.

    mso489, will do

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    Resurrecting an old thread...
    I made an offer on ten sealed containers and half a dozen pipes that includes two of the Rocky Patel prohibition canisters. Looking for them online, all I’ve seen is that they’re on back order.
    That makes me optimistic, but I don’t see that anybody on this thread shared their experience with them.
    Has anybody here tried them yet?

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    Civil War said he’d picked up three jars. Perhaps he didn’t finish the first one and these are the other two? I don’ know and if nobody responds, I can only speculate. My order shouldn’t be long in arriving, so I’ll be sampling it myself. I also see that Rock Patel has released a second blend, using the same 12 oz. containers.

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    Don’t know if any body is reading these posts, but my package arrived today (a day early!) and the first thing I did was open one of the Rocky Patel and try a pipeful (my meerlined Italian briar).
    I’ve finished that pipeful and promptly packed another that I’m smoking now.
    Mild, pleasant and no bite, I’m finding it to be very enjoyable.
    I’m happy that I have the second container!

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  41. cosmicfolklore

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    I've heard it mentioned many times that these Lane blends (Rocky Patel prohibition) were merely repackaged 1Q. I've heard this by some of our most trusted posters and by some of my pipe club friends, and we even have Lane reps at our meetings. I've never tried this specific one, and we don't have many pure aromatic aficionados on the forum. It would be interesting to get a report on this one smoked back to back with 1Q.

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    I've been reading, but have no info.

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    I see that Rocky Patel Prohibition has added a new blend to their pipe tobaccos that they call “Ricn & Warm”

    I was looking at the description and it looks like a similar blend of tobaccos, but with a hint of chocolate & nougat instead of vanilla & caramel. It comes in the the same 12 ounce glass canisters with the RP logo embossed into the mold.

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    I just came out on the patio with some Three Nuns, Crumble Kake and the RP Prohibition that I opened up yesterday. I might smoke a little of each, but I’m starting with the Pure & Simple.
    I’m enjoying it just as much as yesterday and may have a second pipeful. Using my freehand Cutty for the first bowl and maybe (probably) my Iwan Ries Acorn for the second.

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    I’m still enjoying the RP, pure & simple.
    I’m halfway through the first jar and acquired another as well as one of the RP, rich & warm

    Posted 1 month ago #
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    Haven't tried Rocky Patel cigars or pipe tobacco. As long as you aren't looking for a cigar experience from your pipe, cigar leaf as a condiment can be a pleasant change-up in a pipe. I keep a jar of C&D cigar leaf and add it at will for a little light boost to any other blend when the mood strikes. I'd glad to learn cigar leaf is burley. Another interesting fact, Connecticut is a producer of cigar wrapper tobacco, though few think of Connecticut as the tobacco belt.

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    I’ve been using some of the RP, pure & simple to mix with other tobaccos that I’be found to be too bitter for my liking or to alleviate the bite in some others, so I’ve been extending the life of my first jar of RP, p&s (I have three) and been able to enjoy some blends that might otherwise go unsmoked.

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