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kanaia

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I was at my local B&M reading the new SmokeShop magazine and I came across a ad stating that Dunhill is introducing the revival of some vintage blends. We already know about the Elizabethan Mixture but I did not know about Durbar and The Aperitif. Anybody else heard about this or did I miss a post?

 
rmbittner

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Haven't heard this, but if it's true -- and if they're able to actually replicate the former Durbar -- this is fantastic news. Durbar was a fantastic blend.
Bob

 
kanaia

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kanaia

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Go to tobaccoreviews.com Looks like they have blended many aro's.

 
mso489

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Don't some people count Royal Yacht as an aromatic because of its "secret ingredient" flavoring?
It would be interesting to have these classic blends revived. I'm sure Dunhill retains the formulas,

even though the leaf involved may have changed somewhat through the years.

 
rmbittner

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Yes, Dunhill has blended a ton of aromatics, but unless I'm forgetting something, they were all only available in the Dunhill stores. Years ago I picked up an 8oz tin of A2100 at the 5th Avenue store in Manhattan. It was a very fine shag-cut vanilla blend that, to me, was much more flavorful than MacBaren's Vanilla Cream. But it had to be smoked extremely carefully, due to the very fine cut and the flavoring. Some say blends bite if you push them; this one was liable to bite from just sitting down next to it.
BTW, the "tin" was an oversize silver canister with nothing but a sticker on the bottom to indicate the contents and a twist-tied baggie inside. It's possible that some Dunhill "house" blends actually got the full tinning treatment, but this one didn't. And the 5th Avenue store didn't carry any that did. (You might have had to go to London for that.)
But it's all moot now anyway. Dunhill stores -- at least in the U.S. -- have been 100% tobacco-free for nearly a decade.
Bob

 
woodsroad

woodsroad

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Two questions:
A)Who owns the Dunhill brand as it relates to tobacco? Richemont owns the luxury-goods end. Does BAT own the tobacco end?
2)Who manufactures the Dunhill-branded tobacco, and b) where?

 
foggymountain

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They haven't managed to replicate the old blends at all well, no reason to expect anything better here. I remember Nightcap, 965 and Royal Yacht from years ago. The products sold under those names now are a rough approximation, and not as good.

 
misterlowercase

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Two questions:
A)Who owns the Dunhill brand as it relates to tobacco? Richemont owns the luxury-goods end. Does BAT own the tobacco end?
2)Who manufactures the Dunhill-branded tobacco, and b) where?
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You are correct, BAT owns the TM.
The baccy is made in Assens Denmark by Orlik/STG.
Sidenote of interest,

BAT lists the ingredients of tobacco online,

this for example is what's in Dunhill DeLuxe Navy Rolls,

fairly interesting.
BAT pruned the Dunhill bacco portfolio in 2007, so these blends have only been gone like 7 years I think?
Vintage my ass!

LOL
Shell Mixture is vintage, bitches! :)
Or Campaign Plug!
Bring back Dark Flake!
I wish they'd go really old school and bring back "compressed packing"

...a packaging development which dates to the Great War when, in 1915 Dunhill began offering all its blends “packed for campaigning” in a patented quarter pound compressed pack covered with lead foil and sold in a canvas bag intended to serve as a tobacco pouch when the tobacco was rubbed out. This compressed packaging, unchanged in form and design, was offered into the 1960s “for Sportsmen and Travellers”. It appears that throughout the time offered there was essentially no pricing premium for the compressed packaging.
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STG already makes some really great plugs, like Murray's Warrior and Mick McQuaid, I wish they sold the damn things over here though.

 
ravenwolf

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Fascinating information here - good reading!
Never even heard of Shell Mixture before.
I once had a tin of old Apertif - precise age unknown - but it was mighty good in my opinion. I wouldn't mind trying Durbar some day if it becomes available. My grandfather smoked Dunhill blends, so I enjoy investigating them.

 
aristokles

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I wish they would go way, way back- Baby's Bottom (although nowadays the name may be off-putting).

 
daveinlax

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Dunhill has blended a ton of aromatics, but unless I'm forgetting something, they were all only available in the Dunhill stores. Years ago I picked up an 8oz tin of A2100 at the 5th Avenue store in Manhattan.
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The A2XXXX mixtures where relabeled Lane Ltd bulks. A21,000 is 1Q. Lane made all the bulk mixtures sold in the US shops including EMP, 965 and NC.
This is probably a stupid question, but has Dunhill ever blended an aromatic?
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Dunhill and later Murray made many tinned aromatic mixtures. They show up on ebay all the time.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dunhill-Golden-Hours-Tobacco-tin-100g-tin-/351024959511?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51bab7d017
Shell Mixture is vintage, bitches!
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Well the "hand blended" Shell from the London shop isn't that old but it is no more. 8O

 
rmbittner

rmbittner

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Dave:
Not sure where your info comes from, but I can guarantee you that A2100 (NOT "A21000") was nothing like 1Q.
Bob

 
daveinlax

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Not sure where your info comes from, but I can guarantee you that A2100 (NOT "A21000") was nothing like 1Q.
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I have no info on 2100, I have the lists I got in the late 80's of the tobacco's the Dunhill stores offered and 2100 is not on them but 21000 is/was 1Q. I posted the lane equivalents to as many of Dunhills as I could find out years ago on SF unfortunately all that is gone now and many of the old lane bulk blends were discontinued years ago. Cup O Joes still lists the mixtures that are still available. The Bulk EMP 965 and NC are being made these days by Orlik. 8O

http://www.cupojoes.com/cgi-bin/dept?dpt=F&srch=DF&tier2=26

 
misterlowercase

misterlowercase

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Well the "hand blended" Shell from the London shop isn't that old but it is no more.
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Shell Mixture showed up in 1959, it only lasted a decade in its "official livery" standard catalog form,

perhaps not a good choice on my part.
But Campaign Plug should most definitely be brought back, considering how well STG makes plugs,

which is most excellent.
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lochinvar

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I will jump for joy if I find a tin of Durbar. I thought it was heads and tails above the rest of the line.

 
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