Plume = Bacteria

fitzy · Nov 15, 2017

Plume or bloom or whatever you want to call it apparently is a type of bacteria. I was just reading here how they had sent out cigars and pipe tobacco with Blume on it to a lab for testing and this is what they found.
http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/topic/132939-mold-update-round-2/

alan73 · Nov 15, 2017

Those were some interesting pictures. let the debate begin. I guess I'm lucky most of my tobacco is newer, hasn't had a chance to age and develop plume, oops I mean bacteria and mold as your link suggests

Chasing Embers · Nov 15, 2017

Much plume in my jars in my tobacco closet. Aerobic fermentation at it's best! : puffy

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cosmicfolklore · Nov 15, 2017

Mmmm, mold and bacteria never tasted so goooood.

mikethompson · Nov 15, 2017

Ever see any tests done on hotel remote controls, door handles, or the interior of your car? Its almost enough to make you never want to leave your bubble.
I wonder how much of that bacteria is really harmful though, I'm guessing not that much. Still looks unpleasant however!

mothernaturewilleatusallforbreakfast · Nov 15, 2017

I'm glad to read that the overwhelmingly large majority of plume found on aged tobacco is bacterial and not fungal. This is a good thing. My body has billions of different bacteria in it, some good, some bad, but few that are going to kill me; and I doubt the bacteria found as plume on aged tobacco is going to kill me or I'd already be dead by now. It's a moot point for me, but interesting nonetheless. In conclusion, I know what mold looks like and get rid of it when I see it. Otherwise, I smoke the bacteria ridden tobacco plume and enjoy it. Now if I could only get a little kimchi plume to grow on my FVF. : puffy

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cosmicfolklore · Nov 15, 2017

Cheese, sauerkraut, wine, a pancake that I drop on the kitchen floor next to the cat's water bowl, all perfectly good for you. : puffy

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zack24 · Nov 15, 2017

The interesting thing is that pipe smokers accept bacteria as ok, but totally reject fungus. In winemaking, both are important- and they seem to be related to the fermentation of the sugars. It could be that we're missing out on some amazing flavors by throwing out tobacco with fungus...soooo- who wants to go first?? Bacteria In Wine

jcsoldit · Nov 15, 2017

I've got a jar full of Stonehaven that has been aging for approximately 6 year that is loaded with plume(?)that tastes amazing. : puffy

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deathmetal · Nov 15, 2017

Are aromatics a fungus? Because Mixture 79 tastes great.

fitzy · Nov 15, 2017

Cheese, sauerkraut, wine, a pancake that I drop on the kitchen floor next to the cat's water bowl, all perfectly good for you.

Real sauerkraut that hasn't been pasteurized is GREAT for your gut bacteria and super easy to make(as is Kimchi). Cabbage and sea salt.

I guess I'm lucky most of my tobacco is newer, hasn't had a chance to age and develop plume, oops I mean bacteria and mold as your link suggests

Unlucky you mean. Aged tobacco is the BEST, plume and all!!!!!

cosmicfolklore · Nov 15, 2017

Real sauerkraut that hasn't been pasteurized is GREAT

Yep, I made about a dozen jars this year. I love to add beets and rutabagas to some of the jars to mix it up.

fitzy · Nov 15, 2017

I make it at home from time to time. Only problem is I can't eat that much before I need a break from it. lol
Hmm never thought to add beets and rutabagas. I was thinking of adding some spices and making kimchi next time.

jpmcwjr · Nov 15, 2017

Folks- It's bloom, not plume. The bloom can be in the form of a plume, which is a shape.

sablebrush52 · Nov 15, 2017

There have also been analyses that state that the bloom is composed of leached mineral content. Whatever it is, we're not talking about a health product here. The writer also states that the cigars chosen for the test were dusty and that might have accounted for the results. As for fungi, since the species that thrive on tobacco are highly toxic, there might be s reason that it's better to toss moldy tobacco.

cosmicfolklore · Nov 15, 2017

Just to be safe, send all of you tobacco with bloom on it to me, and I'll test it. : puffy

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cortezattic · Nov 15, 2017

The stuff I see developing on my aged tobaccos is silvery and somewhat crystalline. I think Greg Pease once speculated that this might be the result of oils migrating to the surface, as did "Captain Quintero" in the comment section of the cited article.
In the comment section of Pease's article, http://pipesmagazine.com/blog/out-of-the-ashes/saving-for-a-rainy-day/ , member Kashmir, a microbiologist, provides some interesting insights.

Chasing Embers · Nov 15, 2017

Folks- It's bloom, not plume. The bloom can be in the form of a plume, which is a shape.

The words are interchangeable.
https://www.simplycigars.co.uk/guide/cigar-old-or-plume-bloom-45/

sablebrush52 · Nov 15, 2017

Plume, bloom, spume, doom. It's whatever it is and we don't really care as long as it tastes good.

Chasing Embers · Nov 15, 2017

Yup.

Plume = Bacteria

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