Pipe in Sherlock The Abominable Bride

pylorns · Jul 22, 2016

Publicity shot:

https://petersonpipenotes.wordpress.com/2016/01/17/peterson-and-sherlocks-the-abominable-bride/
So they think its a Peterson, but in looking closly in that shot and zooming in it clearly says "Made in Italy". You can also notice the metal embellishment is a single line not a double.
Zoomed in - sharpened:

Thoughts on what this pipe really is?

pylorns · Jul 23, 2016

Another pic of the pipe

bigpond · Jul 23, 2016

I believe that's a Sav 642. Certainly something in the 640 series.
A few examples that are in the ballpark:

https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/savinelli/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=209718
https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/savinelli/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=201570
Neither has a saddle though.

pylorns · Jul 23, 2016

Yeah right shape, just not the right stem but right country too.

Sjmiller CPG · Jul 23, 2016

I believe it is a Sav 613.

jpmcwjr · Jul 23, 2016

Two things wrong:
It's not well-used much less a beat up old pipe.
Style is wrong for the period.

pappap · Jul 23, 2016

That looks some what like my GBD Orly from the early 70's

sasquatch · Jul 23, 2016

The third pic shows a horribly aligned stem/shank, something Sav is better at. I'm thinking it's a cheap pipe they have 28 of on set. More likely "lorenzo" or something like that.

mso489 · Jul 24, 2016

I bet they had a team of people worrying about the wardrobe and another for the furniture, but when it came to the pipe, meh, they found a bent pipe and said okay. Sad because they could have found an actual pipe from the period, not even a reproduction. Some of the Peterson shapes would have come closer than this, and they could have bought a supply in case of loss or damage. Oh well. No one asked Forums. Kevin could have been put on contract.

travelergypsy · Jul 25, 2016

Is this from the TV Show? If so, the TV Show is set in modern London, not the original.

travelergypsy · Jul 25, 2016

Never mind. I should have googled first. My apologies

condorlover1 · Jul 25, 2016

He never wore a deer stalker hat or Inverness cape either. That was a result of the illustrator for The Stand Magazine being given a huge license with drawing Holmes!

pylorns · Jul 25, 2016

@sasquach - I think you may be right because that wording above the made in italy starts with an L.

mso489 · Jul 26, 2016

...and would anyone smoke their pipe, even in cold weather, wearing stiff new leather gloves? The photos suggest the actor has never smoked a pipe. Oh well.

pipesmokingtom · Jul 26, 2016

It's a great series, but I'm still miffed they traded his pipe smoking for nicotine patches. At least they made a gesture to give him his pipe back for this special episode. They should have maybe paid a consultant a few bucks to not totally screw it up. I guess no one cares but us, though, in the big picture

jpmcwjr · Jul 26, 2016

Gypsy- You're right; The bulk of the series is modern, but:
From IMDB: "Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson find themselves in 1890s London in this Christmas special."

pylorns · Jul 28, 2016

Ok I've confirmed - because some were insistent that it was a Peterson.

Tom and Conor Palmer (Owners of Peterson) and Myself.

"It's not one of ours"
So then I went and talked with the Lorenzo people since they were at IPCPR as well - also not one of theirs. Running theory is that its Lorenzetti.

bigpond · Jul 29, 2016

You're a twitter guy, no?
Just ask this guy, Mike Parker.

https://twitter.com/propsink
He's the prop master for the show.

mso489 · Jul 29, 2016

Do all of Sherlock's clothes have to look brand new, along with the pipe? He looks like a catalog model. Holmes was a slouchy bachelor. He likely had food stains on his suit, despite his fastidious nature. He looks here like his clothes are stenciled with his name.

maguffin · Jan 8, 2017

For whatever it's worth, I give the prop people on "Sherlock" credit for choosing pipes that more or less match what Conan Doyle described (a briar pipe and a black clay pipe) instead of the calabash pipe which is so often associated with Holmes but is never actually mentioned in the books. More info here: https://www.quora.com/What-kinds-of-pipes-did-Sherlock-Holmes-smoke-according-to-Sir-Arthur-Conan-Doyles-writings

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