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Pipe Culture Documentary, "Father the Flame Flame" is Here!

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    Pipe Culture Documentary, "Father the Flame Flame" finally comes to fruition after 7-years in the making!
    http://pipesmagazine.com/blog/pipe-news/father-the-flame-movie-a-must-see-for-pipe-smokers-and-non-smokers-alike/

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    Finally!

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    I am anxiously waiting to see this. I even have some C&D Father the Flame delivering today so I can smoke a bowl or two while watching the film.

    I even have some non-pipe smoking friends excited to see it. Maybe they will transition from the dark side!

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    Hell to the yeah!

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    I will probably be downloading and watching this tomorrow on my day off. Anyone know if there's a popcorn aromatic?

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    The trailer is up on iTunes. Don't know for sure if Pre-order means that it will be up to buy and watch tomorrow.

    From the iTunes blurb:

    Father the Flame
    UHD
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    Documentary
    1 Hour 19 Minutes
    Pre-Order: Expected Jun 4, 2019
    5.0, 2 Ratings
    In a small basement workshop in far Northern Michigan, master pipe maker Lee Erck loses himself in the dense grain of each pipe he creates, all the while counting on his work to last for generations. Brought to life in a stunning cinematic experience, this story speaks to a slower pace of life that weaves together a charming cast of characters. From the royal family of Danish pipe makers, to the Italian briar cutter known as the world’s greatest, to a fourth-generation Native American “peace pipe” maker, Father the Flame looks through the lens of the pipe to explore the the timeless values it seems to evoke. At once light hearted and deeply philosophical, the film immerses the viewer in a meditation on inheritance, family and the things we leave behind.

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    Don't know for sure if Pre-order means that it will be up to buy and watch tomorrow.
    You can purchase it today, and be able to download it tomorrow.

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    Old School types needn't worry, btw...

    Amazon will be carrying it as a DVD:

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    Thanks, Anthony. Apple will get my money when the goods are available.

    I am delighted to see it's in UHD and HDR. My birthday TV will arrive on Wednesday, and that video will inaugurate it.

    For those watching tomorrow, does a particular tobacco suggest itself for viewing?

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    Yes, Father the Flame by C&D would be the perfect smoke for the occasion!

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    Super stoked to watch this!

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    Excellent, just pre-ordered the DVD.

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    Can I buy from the iTunes store and play on my android? Sorry for a most likely ignorantly stupid question. Apple products and I do not abide.

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    BTW, great interview and article.

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    I'll definitely be getting the DVD.

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    Amazon will be carrying it as a DVD:
    Even better! But I'll probably go ahead and buy the download so I don't have to wait. The DVD will come later.

    Can I buy from the iTunes store and play on my android? Sorry for a most likely ignorantly stupid question.
    It's only stupid if you don't ask. No, Itunes won't work on an Android. There's an App that's supposed to make that possible but I heard it was crap. Regardless, Itunes WILL work on a PC if you're able to go that route. If not, you can purchase the DVD.

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    I'll definitely be getting the DVD.

    +1 … I'm very glad to hear it will be on DVD.

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    A very nice editorial review for it on Amazon:

    For centuries, the tobacco pipe has been a symbol of contentment and contemplation. Through the window of this transcendental artifact and its sacred origins, Father the Flame is a cinematic exploration of legacy, family and love. The film follows Lee Erck, a world-renowned pipe maker from far Northern Michigan, as he travels the globe to explore the nearly forgotten art of tobacco pipe making. Featuring a charming cast of characters-from the royal family of Danish pipe makers, to the Italian briar cutter known as the worlds greatest, to a fourth-generation Native American peace pipe maker- this story speaks to a slower pace of life, a luxury in our sped-up world. Beautiful and hypnotic, Father the Flame immerses the viewer in the cultural and spiritual significance of the tobacco pipe and what it can teach a modern generation about legacy and the things we leave behind.

    https://www.amazon.com/Father-Flame-Lee-Erck/dp/B07QN8P3CL/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2PP3ZVTRYBE1G&keywords=father+the+flame&qid=1559627749&s=movies-tv&sprefix=father+%2Caps%2C205&sr=1-1

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    OK. I watched it twice today. Certainly enjoyed it very much and I'm sure everyone else will too. Two small, niggling criticisms: not a word bout tobacco and its complexities and more importantly, no mention of even one or two young American carvers.

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    Just finished watching. Well worth the money and time. I very much enjoyed the cinematography but was even more impressed with the story they were able to put together. Found myself getting emotional a number of times by how similar the story of pipe smokers seems to be; I feel more connected to my grandfather who passed a few years ago when I smoke the pipes of his I was fortunate enough to find and clean back up to ship shape.

    Well done and thank you.

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    I watched it twice yesterday. Very well made doc and I think it would stand up against any other doc made. I enjoyed how it focused more on the historical asspects of pipe making through the generations and less on the smoking of the pipe. We all know there are plenty of docs on that. All in all an enjoyable film and extra good with a bowl or two of C&D Father the Flame to pair with the film.

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    from the iTunes store and play on my android

    Doc, it *is* available on google play, if you want to check it out there.

    https://play.google.com/store?hl=en_US

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    After a long day of work I got to come home, load up a Bjarne Nielsen with some Arcadia, and sit back and enjoy this wonderful film. I didn’t know what to expect but I really enjoyed it. They did a great job of describing the history of pipes without actually giving a history lesson, but obviously the main focus was family and friendships bonded with pipe making. Stunning cinematography and an absolutely amazing soundtrack. This documentary was done far better than some of the “critically acclaimed” docs I’ve watched. I look forward to watching it many more times.

    I wish there was a little more information given about the Native American pipes and makers as the pipe in their culture is quite different from ours, but what was included was quite good.

    On a side note the pipestone quarries at Pipestone, MN, are well worth a visit. It’s now a national monument however Native tribes are still allowed to quarry the stone. The visitor center usually has pipemakers there carving and answering questions and great information about how vast the trade network went from this one spot in western Minnesota.

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    To be honest, I wasn't really expecting much (not sure why), but this film was a really pleasant surprise. It was both visually compelling and moving. In my favorite moment of the film, Lee Von Erck is (visibly) grappling with some existential angst, and when asked what keeps him going in absence of a family and so on, he replies that it's "the fun" and all the aged tobacco he has squirreled away - he says something to the effect of, "Well, I've got to smoke some of it." The true motivation of tobacco hoarders is revealed! In all, a really nice meditation on legacy, family, mortality, interconnectedness, and other themes that's carried by a remarkably sympathetic cast of characters.

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    I really wanted to support the filmmakers and buy this movie but it's not available in my country. I'm unconsolable... Any solutions?

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    How can I buy it from Iceland?

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    I helped back this film, well I'm not sure how long ago, and I purchased it off Amazon Prime this morning. MONEY WELL SPENT. I'm glad I contributed $$ in such a minuscule way and really enjoyed the film.

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    I saw some copies on eBay for sale that are on DVD/ You can buy them that way

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    To those not in the parts of the world where this can be streamed on Amazon or itunes:

    1. This may change in the next few months. International permissions are tricky business. You may be able to get specific country/zone release dates from the filmaker via their website.

    2. If you are absolutely stuck for other options, I will purchase and ship internationally the DVD for any interested parties. Just reimburse me those costs. PM me.

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    Not a bad flick. Wish I could afford any one single pipe in the movie outside of those Chacoms.

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    Thanks, I will keep my eyes opened! Maybe Netflix in the future?

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    Could non-US based folks use a VPN and set up an iTunes account?

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    Thanks for the heads up. Looking forward to watching this!!

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    @chilllucky

    Thank you so much for the offer, that's very kind. For the time being I guess I'll wait a bit to see if the movie becomes available around these parts because, and I can't really blame anyone else for this - I also don't own a DVD player. But thank you again!

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    I have to say, I was a bit disappointed with this film. Quite short given the amount of time it took to make it. I will say it had an awesome score and some beautiful visuals but as a tobacco man myself I was hoping they’d get into the tobacco side of things. I think tobacco blending is just as much of an art form as pipe making, it would have been awesome if they interviewed some master blenders and visted some factories like the Gawith’s, Mac Baren, STG or even C&D. Anyway, I was happy to buy and support the film just wish they went a bit more in depth with it.

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    It just came up on google play in the US, for those who do not care for or have access to itunes.

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    Yeah, I downloaded it from there around noon yesterday.

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    Just discovered this post two nights ago. I was able to purchase through amazon prime on Comcast and watch on my tv. It was $10 to purchase or $4 to rent. I’ve watched twice now and really enjoyed it.

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    I pre-ordered from Amazon a while back. Anyone have any information on when the DVD will ship?

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    I pre-ordered from Amazon a while back. Anyone have any information on when the DVD will ship?

    I just logged on to Amazon and searched the DVD. It claims delivery July 22 - Aug. 16

    I would imagine they waited to get enough sales to warrant running a production of DVD's and keep the cost in control.

    If you want to watch it right now, you can rent it on you tube for $4.

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    I watched it last night with a friend. It is a beautiful movie... great cinematography, beautiful score, compelling reflections, lots of historical footage. I really enjoyed it. Like others, I would like to have seen something about the tobacco aspect of pipe smoking, but the focus of the film is really pipes and pipe makers. Easily an "A" in my grade book!

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    Yep, pre-ordered on either 1 or 2nd day for pre-order sales. Supposed to ship June 18th. Nope.

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    Yep, pre-ordered on either 1 or 2nd day for pre-order sales. Supposed to ship June 18th. Nope.

    You have to wonder whether it's a legit production delay, or the Amazon Marketing Psychology types knew exactly what they were doing from the start:

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    I recommend listening to the Pipe and Tamper podcast, they have a very interesting interview with Chad Terpstra about the film, and how it was to make and the kind of decisions they had to make in order to be faithful to the documentary and at the same time, have a logical commercial product. I guess some of the questions before will be answered.

    I watched the film twice already, and I loved it. I also made a minimum contribution to the film a couple of years ago, and I got to have a download before launch, so it was a really nice surprise.

    I hope they make a sequel to this with the other 4+ hours they shot during production!

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    I just finished it today, after three attempts.

    And

    My word. What a beautiful documentary.

    I want more.

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    I found myself wondering if the sudden DVD delivery date delay was just a listing error. Something someone fat-fingered and quickly corrected after realizing it.

    Nope.

    In fact, it got pushed out even farther.

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    Yeah. I was just checking that out too and saw the disappointing delivery date. Amazon.ca lists it as unavailable. Guess all of you guys rushed to place orders, eh?

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    I know contractural distribution rights & etc. can be legally complicated.

    But with this? A specialist, limited-market "fan film"?

    Burning DVD's is NOT rocket science. Nor is distributing them. And the makers of the film had seven years (or was it only six?) to think about what they were going to DO with their final product.

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    In fact, it got pushed out even farther.

    Not surprised at all.

    Guess all of you guys rushed to place orders, eh?

    Nope, saw this coming.

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    I wouldn't spend time on a DVD, a dying format. Why not just buy it on iTunes, and enjoy the quite good quality HD video? Then you'd have it forever and can play it on today's equipment (OK, so many folks still have and use DVD players, but won't in several years, though it could be played on a Blu-ray player till those end up in the recycle bin.)

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    It is very disappointing that after all this time it's finally completed and the DVD's are essentially unobtainable. I'm just not into the streaming or digital thing and don't plan to get into it...for movies, music, books or anything else. If I'm going to purchase something I want a hard copy of it, not a computer file.

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    It is very disappointing that after all this time it's finally completed and the DVD's are essentially unobtainable. I'm just not into the streaming or digital thing and don't plan to get into it...for movies, music, books or anything else. If I'm going to purchase something I want a hard copy of it, not a computer file.

    A view that I'm sure is NOT uncommon in the PipeWorld, given the average age of its citizens.

    "Hey... I know! Let's market this doc that features a septuagenarian who hand makes something few people under 30 have ever seen in their life except in an old Hollywood movie... to Millennials to watch on their TV telephones!"

    "Great Idea, Bob! Maybe burn a few DVDs so the guy in the film---and his friends---can watch it, though?"

    "Nah... That would make sense. And these days anything that makes sense isn't, you know... edgy."

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    Why not just buy it on iTunes, and enjoy the quite good quality HD video? Then you'd have it forever and can play it on today's equipment

    Well, no, not really.

    I stopped buying movies on iTunesux because I don't want to be locked out of content I PAID FOR all of a sudden because I am running an old version and refuse to update, or because they changed their silly Terms of Use. Then I wouldn't have it forever.

    I'd rather pop a disc into a drive and enjoy it even if it's 'low' quality video.

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    I'm just not into the streaming or digital thing and don't plan to get into it...for movies, music, books or anything else.

    That's me too.

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    Yeah mine was the digital copy.

    And sittingbear i agree with you. Wish there were more about the tobacco aspect.

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    "Hey... I know! Let's market this doc that features a septuagenarian who hand makes something few people under 30 have ever seen in their life except in an old Hollywood movie... to Millennials to watch on their TV telephones!"

    LOL ... Exactly.

    I stopped buying movies on iTunesux because I don't want to be locked out of content I PAID FOR all of a sudden because I am running an old version and refuse to update, or because they changed their silly Terms of Use. Then I wouldn't have it forever.

    Exactly again. I don't want to play their game.

    The digitization of everything is all about control. It doesn't require much imagination to see where that all eventually ends up.

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    It is very disappointing that after all this time it's finally completed and the DVD's are essentially unobtainable.

    FYI, the disks are being produced by Esoterica...

    I wouldn't spend time on a DVD, a dying format....

    I'll catch it on Netflix in 18 months. Best $12 a month I spend.

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    something few people under 30 have ever seen in their life except in an old Hollywood movie

    I wonder how many people under 30 have even seen an old Hollywood movie?

    FYI, the disks are being produced by Esoterica...

    LOL

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    FYI, the disks are being produced by Esoterica...

    Oh, man, that means we'll be seeing them shortly on ewwBay at $100 apiece.

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    I watched it the week it came out. I thought the guys did a great job on it. From what was said about it I thought it'd be more wide ranged, by that I mean covering more people in the industry and different aspects of it. Instead it really focused on Lee and the briar with a bit of a nod to Lars and Mimmo. It was nice to get a bit more of insight to Lee's work and Mimmo and Lars' worlds.

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    Just finished watching Father The Flame. Definitely worth the $4.99 rental.

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    Waiting to get the pre-ordered DVD. I hope it will be here before the end of the year.

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    For all of the old codgers that are waiting on the DVD...Just checked Amazon and the "NEW" in stock date is July 7th. We shall see. I hope this turns out to be true. Look forward to watching the DVD.

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    I'd be excited if the film's production, distribution, and delivery so far hadn't been arranged by someone using a Magic Eight Ball.

    At this point, I'll believe it when I see it.

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    I'd be excited if the film's production, distribution, and delivery so far hadn't been arranged by someone using a Magic Eight Ball.

    At this point, I'll believe it when I see it.

    I know...never had much luck using the Magic Eight Ball. I think I still have one in the shop...I will check it tomorrow and see what it advises. I will let you know tomorrow.

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