Peterson(?) Pipe. Real or Fake

leafar0alexander · Sep 19, 2017

Good day gents,
I was hoping if any of you would know something about this "Peterson" pipe I got from a friend. it may be missing a band based on what I've researched on the internet. and the markings dont seem to reflect any that have already been recorded.
it also came with a P-lip bit. (I can post additional photos if needed)

Edited by jvnshr: Title capitalization and pictures. Deleted unnecessary posts.

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anthonyrosenthal74 · Sep 19, 2017

Looks to be one of the old Peterson Dublin & Londons. Made in the 60s I think. The original Dublin & London's didn't have a band. That's something they added on the new version. It has the old Peterson stamp with the two tailed P. At the time, there was also a factory in London and this line was made in celebration of that. I'm not completely sure if there's a way to tell if the pipe was made in which factory. They were made in both. Quite nice.

leafar0alexander · Sep 19, 2017

Looks to be one of the old Peterson Dublin & Londons. Made in the 60s I think. The original Dublin & London's didn't have a band. That's something they added on the new version. It has the old Peterson stamp with the two tailed P. At the time, there was also a factory in London and this line was made in celebration of that. I'm not completely sure if there's a way to tell if the pipe was made in which factory. They were made in both. Quite nice.

thanks for the insight anthonyrosenthal!
and I see, though I saw on Pipedia that this type of forked P would generally have a silver band. Is it possible for silver bands to "fall off"? I never owned a Peterson before so I dont know how easily a band can be removed.

klause · Sep 19, 2017

If I recall correctly - 'Dublin & London' means it was made in the Dublin factory, while 'London & Dublin' means it was made in the London factory.
Itdoes not look as though there was a silver band - theres usually a bit of band-shaped discolouration where the band would have been when they come loose.

paulfg · Sep 19, 2017

As stated above from the original Dublin & London series and yes the Dublin or London first denoted where the pipe was made (as stated by Klause).

These pipes did not have a silver band. I believe the range was discontinued in the 1990s by which time the London factory had long been closed
some reading re new and old dublin & London pipes

https://petersonpipenotes.wordpress.com/tag/peterson-dublin-london/

anthonyrosenthal74 · Sep 19, 2017

After doing some further research I found that your pipe was likely made not in the 1960s but in the 1970s. I'd love to see photos of the pipe with stem attached. Klause is correct about the London & Dublin stamp being a pipe made in the London factory, which was closed down in the 1960s apparently. You can read more about the stamping of your pipe here.... https://pipedia.org/wiki/A_Peterson_Dating_Guide;_A_Rule_of_Thumb#Stamping_of_Bowls
I'm especially interested in this thread as my latest pipe happens to be one of the new Dublin & London, I've only smoked a few times within the last week and it's a beautiful, well smoking pipe.

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jensen · Sep 19, 2017

Yes Anthony, its a newer one & nice

uperepik · Sep 19, 2017

I wouldn't think there would be Peterson fakes out there, I could be wrong

mso489 · Sep 19, 2017

Looks/sounds legit to me. The stamping matches Peterson history.

piffyr · Sep 19, 2017

You have the real thing. The older Dublin & London line didn't have bands. Here's my 155 (sorry for the over-processing -- was playing around with some HDR stuff at the time)...

It has forked "P" shank stamping and script "P" stem logo. As I understand it, the forked "P" can only be used as a dating indicator when it's used as a stem logo. It has been used as part of the shank stamping on various lines over the years. According to this older thread, the Dublin and Londons were made until at least 1997: http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/petersons

jensen · Sep 19, 2017

I have two Dublin & London. A 264 XL Canadian and a XL 02 apple bent, - no silver,naturel finish.

Both bought in the Peterson shop in Dublin in 1995 and 1996

leafar0alexander · Sep 19, 2017

Thank you everyone for the information!
Pipes are quite difficult to come by nowadays in the Philippines and there aren't that many people who would have in depth knowledge about them.
Thanks for teaching me something new!

:D :worship:

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