Peterson Dunmore Restoration

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celticbrewer

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Found this pipe on the internet as part of an estate lot. Stem was in pretty bad shape (oxidized, tooth chatter). Lot of sanding and polishing but overall the pipe restored really well! This is my second full restoration, let me know what you all think!
Dunmore Pre-Restoration

Dunmore Post-restoration

 

spartacus

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• Apr 7, 2019

• #2

Beautiful! Good Job!

 

anthonyrosenthal74

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Great job! Turned out to be a lovely Pete :clap:

 

didimauw

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• Apr 7, 2019

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Nice job! Stem looks like new!

 

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celticbrewer

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Thanks! Came together well

 

mso489

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I like the beaded shank and shaping on the stem, a fine old Peterson brought back to life and a nice job.

 

georged

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The stem and bowl are from different pipes.

 

pappymac

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The stem and bowl are from different pipes.

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Why do you think that?
I found a Peterson Kapp-Royal last summer that has the same beadwork and stem. The stem is stamped IRC because Peterson was making pipes to be sold by Iwan Ries.

 

georged

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The little tube widget isn't a tenon, just a "condenser extension" sort of thing. It is thin-walled and delicate.
The intended bearing area of that stem is the much thicker tapered area above it. It's a military "jam fit" design.

 

pappymac

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The little tube widget isn't a tenon, just a "condenser extension" sort of thing. It is thin-walled and delicate.
The intended bearing area of that stem is the much thicker tapered area above it. It's a military "jam fit" design.

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Not on my Kapp-Royal or photos I've seen online of both Kapp-Royals and Dunmores.
I was told it was a specific stem made for the pipes sold by Iwan Ries & Co.
This is my Kapp-Royal. By the way, most Kapp-Royals had a nickel band instead of the beadwork. The Dunmore line was a step down in quality from the Kapp-Royal but always had the beadwork.

 

georged

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Too funny.
It looks like some enterprising "inventor" who had access to a marketably large quantity of mismatched stems and stummels figured out a way to sell them. :lol:
(I 100% guarantee that the little tube extension is not, and was not, intended to be a tenon)

 

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celticbrewer

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Don't know much about the Dunmore line to be honest... it definitely has the Peterson "P" on the Stem though

 

cosmicfolklore

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• Apr 8, 2019

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Google "Peterson Dunmore"

I know nothing about Petersons, but just in googling this... are these the same type of stems?

 

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celticbrewer

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Looks to be in the same style. I see some images with the gap between the stem and the stummel and some without but stem style seems to match

 

georged

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How do you lower the cost of a three part pipe? (bowl, stem, spun band/dome)
By eliminating one of the parts.
How do you do that?
By eliminating the NEED for one of the parts.
The bowl? Nope, gotta have it.
The stem? Nope, gotta have it.
But... military design pipes must have an expensive band or spun dome "cap" to prevent the shank from splitting...
So, make the mortise parallel sided instead of a tapered cone, and voila! :clap:
I would love to have been a fly on the wall of the approving manager's office when this deliberate mis-match was proposed. :rofl:
"Who needs rocket science, eh, Robbie? Just drill a hole the size o'that wee widget right there, mash 'em together, and no one'll be the wiser... And you'll make your bonus next month!"

 

cosmicfolklore

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• Apr 8, 2019

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It doesn't look like it's supposed to go together, but it looks like that whole line has that mismatched look.

 

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• Apr 8, 2019

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Nice work! How did you treat the stem?

 

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celticbrewer

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Thanks! I have always shied away from oxiclean or bleach treatments... just wet sanding from 300 grit to 12000 grit and a carnauba wax polish did the trick!

 

pappymac

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It looks like some enterprising "inventor" who had access to a marketably large quantity of mismatched stems and stummels figured out a way to sell them. :lol:

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My Kapp-Royal doesn't have a tube by the way.
Like I said earlier, I was told Peterson specifically made the Kapp-Royal and Dunmore lines at first to be sold only at Iwan Ries & Co. Later they made have been sold by other retailers. This was before the Kapp-Peterson and Dunmore lines started being made in Italy.
Celticbrewer - Do you have a photo of the stem by itself?

 

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celticbrewer

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More than happy to oblige!

Hard to capture but the P is still there

Stummel does have (in addition to Peterson, Dunmore and 72) the Letters IRC on it