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P&C Stopped Shipping to Utah!

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    CyclingSargentBeardface

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    Just went to go check out with my usual cartfull of random bulk tobaccos and got a notice that P&C does not ship to Utah! I just bought a bunch of tobacco from them last month! I am utterly distraught at this news! Wonder if there is a way around this somehow? Any suggestions?

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    You need an intermediary. And that definitely sucks.

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    I have a brother who lives in Nevada. Would be be able to ship it to me though?

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    Yes. Unless he's a commercial tobacconist. But, I'm not an internet lawyer, I'm just a guy who has shipped tobacco to friends in Washington. They have the same policies.

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    Haha, thanks folks for the info. Much appreciated!

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    The way around it is to be buy from Tobacco Pipes or Smoking Pipes or one of several others.

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    That is true. Smoking pipes didn't throw me an error when I went to check out tonight. Wonder why P&C can't ship but others can.

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    Hoosierpipeguy---You are correct at the present time.Give it a day,Month, or year,Probably less and it will not be available to him anywhere online.The scheme is get rid of all the brick and mortars.Make us all order online then make a rule that eventually tobacco will not be able to be shipped to any State.Funk politics,They need to simmer down with us.Washington and Maryland...now Utah this is sad news....just like the FDA B.S. Once it's on the table,it's simply a thing they can address and enforce.I just got rid of 9 pounds of Balkan..maybe that was a mistake...I have only about 25 pounds of tobacco left as of now.Time to buy more I guess.

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    leafsmoker, I don't disagree. That's why I now have 235 pounds of pipe tobacco stored. I hope to have over 300 pounds by 2020. At that point, while I hope it doesn't for all other pipe smokers sake, I'll be covered.

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    And just where do you live Hoosier? No reason, just curious. Don't worry about me. Nothing to see here. Keep moving.

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    A Hoosier... is someone from Indiana.

    "So it goes." - K.V.
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    Near Indianapolis, IN.

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    Could you ship it to a PO Box in a town just over the border and then pick it up from there?

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    ^^^Yup. You can also contact your state legislators and tell them what asshats they are.

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    ^^^^While you’re at it call that Freshman Senator you guys just elected... what’s his name? He was the one that handed over the presidential bid that one time! Yea call him too.

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    Nice Hoosierpipe guy.235 pounds and trying for 300.That's great man, I wish I could say the same.I'll be happy to attain even 100 pounds by 2020.

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    Thanks for all the input. I am hoping to be out of this state by the end of the year!

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    Moving to Washington?

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    That's one of the places I was thinking. I was at Fort Lewis for 4 years and really miss the PNW.

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    So, out of the frying pan and into the fire, eh?

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    Haha, right?

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    Washington is a beautiful state, though. My BIL and his family lived in Edmonds for a while.

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    What's the state law involved? Does this relate to tobacco only, or is it about online purchases and sales tax?

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    P&C won't ship here to WA either, and the state tobacco tax rate is 95%.

    My wife and I were raised here and planned to retire here. But the way things are developing, I have told her there is a 75% chance we will be legislated out of this state.

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    Hoosierpipeguy---You are correct at the present time.Give it a day,Month, or year,Probably less and it will not be available to him anywhere online.The scheme is get rid of all the brick and mortars.Make us all order online then make a rule that eventually tobacco will not be able to be shipped to any State.Funk politics,They need to simmer down with us.Washington and Maryland...now Utah this is sad news....just like the FDA B.S. Once it's on the table,it's simply a thing they can address and enforce.I just got rid of 9 pounds of Balkan..maybe that was a mistake...I have only about 25 pounds of tobacco left as of now.Time to buy more I guess.

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    So basically, if you want to smoke a pipe, you have to go out of state to buy tobacco. I visualize a car trunk full of OTC tubs. Then I would have to smoke two bowls a week. The economy of my state was built on tobacco, so though the industry has withered comparatively, it is still big here and holds some sway, We have other legislative problems, to my mind, but that is not one of them. Not yet anyway. I'd make friends with a long-haul truck driver or similar person who would be asked to bring my purchases and I'd meet him or her at their freight drop. (Could I take the time and trouble? Hmmm.) Oops. On second thought that sounds like an interstate commerce problem. Back to the trunk load of OTC's I guess.

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    Just checked P&C's Page re : shipping. South Dakota is listed as a non ship state as is Utah.

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    What's the state law involved? Does this relate to tobacco only, or is it about online purchases and sales tax?

    According to https://tax.utah.gov/tobacco/internet, "it is illegal to buy cigarettes/tobacco products by Internet, Phone, or Mail-Order" in Utah.

    I would suppose that ordering from a company other than P&C would not be a long-term solution.

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    The law has been in place since 2009 I believe. There have always been a handful of shops, more of the "off the beaten path" places that wouldn't ship to Utah. Surprised that P&C did this but the fine is 5k so maybe they got burned or the law dogs caught wind of the issue.

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    oldgeezer, am originally from S. Dakota, but moved out in '87 long before there was such a thing as internet tobacco sales and back when there was such a thing as a decent B&M nearby. If I lived there now, would probably be up a creek. Good reason not to move back as if their winters weren't a good enough reason all on their own.

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    @unkleyoda- t.h.a.n.k.s.=I'll do better from now on. It is hard to read that way. Enjoy!

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    This is Utah. Only thing I am surprised about is that it was not enacted sooner.
    Surprised they allow you to even fart. Maybe a user tax on that or something..

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