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  1. peckinpahhombre

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    I recently purchased a Becker strawberry wood poker and am loving it. One thing I have never tried, however, is a Morta pipe. recently, I came across a mortal pipe made by Moretti. Marco Biagini at Moretti calls it a freehand, but it looked like more of a zulu/cutty shape to me, and as some of you know, I love that shape, so I decided to take the plunge. I realize it won't be to everyone's taste, but thought I would share it with you. The pipe came today and I am breaking it in with SJF. It is perfectly drilled and has just the right bowl dimensions for flakes.

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    That's a stunning pipe, Peck! Congratulations.

    I'm quite interested in your opinion of how virginias smoke in your morta pipe.

    Some months ago, an established pipemaker (I think it was Trever Talbert? not sure) noted in a thread here something I'd heard before -- that morta pipes are better for English/Balkan blends and not as good for virginias.

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    Very interesting Roth. What was his rationale? I have heard Mortas can smoke hotter, since they conduct the heat better than briar (but aren't as susceptible to burnout). Maybe that's the rationale. I can tell you so far the pipe does get an little warmer than a briar, but what is also odd is that when you slow down your puffing it actually cools much more quickly than a briar.

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    What was his rationale?

    Not sure, Peck, I'd have to look it up. Anyway, I remember too it is said that a blend smokes differently in a Morta compared to a briar; I don't think this was meant that one is better than the other, rather it was simply an opinion.

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    I like the grain on that. Not something I can usually say of a morta.

    As long as I got a pipe full of baccy and a nose full of snuff, I'm a happy camper
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    This site is a very good read, talks about black, copper and gold
    morta...

    http://davorinmortapipes.wordpress.com/

    BTW; outstanding choice, love the look...been keeping my looking
    for a morta for some time now

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    Cool looking pipe. Good luck with it.

    Blowin' smoke since 1970.
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    Great looking pipe. I love the gentle curve of the stem and the forward cant of the bowl. Congrats and enjoy!

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    Very nice. i am interested in a morta. How does it smoke? How hot does it get compared to briar?

    I know what I need, smoke, I can't recall the last time I tasted it....Gandalf in the mines of Moria.

    "we shall have to share pipes, as good friends must at a pinch'....'I keep a treasure or two near my skin, as precious as rings to me. Here's one: my old wooden pipe. And here's another an unused one...He held up a small pipe with a wide flattened bowl, and handed it to Gimli. 'Does that settle the score between us', said Merry. 'Most noble hobbit, it leaves me deep in your debt."
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    I can report that the pipe does get warmer than briar but when you slow down puffing it gets cool really fast. Not what I am used to with briar. So far I like it. I did some more research and some find that black morta imparts a smoky taste - which is why some say it is better with english blends or vapers (as opposed to straight VAs or aromatics). I have been smoking escudo in it (and previously, SJF) and I don't detect anything unusual so far. One of the benefits of black morta is that you can smoke it hard and repeatedly, much like a meer - it just doesn't pick up moisture like a briar. I travel quite a bit so I plan to take this as one of my two travel pipes, since I can smoke it without worrying about resting it like I would with a briar. So far I really like it. This is my second Moretti and both smoke wonderfully - perfectly drilled with the draft hole dead center and at the bottom of the bowl.

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    i just smoked a bowl of escudo that was a one light affair (after the char light), right down to a fine white ash. When I emptied the bowl, I noticed something. Because of the shape of this pipe, the draft hole actually looks like it comes up into the bowl from the bottom of the bowl, dead centre (you can see from the side profile pic why this would be so). In most conventional shaped pipes, the draft hole comes into the bowl from the side, and if it is a well constructed pipe, it will come into the bowl at the lowest point of the bowl. That made me wonder whether you get a better smoke in a pipe where the draft hole comes into the bowl from underneath the bowl into the centre. I don't know. All I can tell you is that this pipe seems to smoke as good as my best Rad pipes (and, dare I say it, maybe even a little better - but I will reserve on that judgment until I smoke a lot more bowls in this thing), and I don't think I have ever noticed that draft hole design in a pipe before. Thoughts? I am on my third bowl and not even a remote sign of any gurgle and no relights.

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    I love the look of that pipe, it is totally cool. I too have been wondering about morta pipe and when Trevor made his exclamation about how he thinks they smoke Virginia's, I have kind of stayed away. I am glad to hear you are loving yours Peck and that is smokes Vapers extremely well. I think it may be time to revisit a morta again. I really like the looks of many of them and I like their uniqueness. 10,000 year old wood just sounds cool. Keep us updated as too your thinking it may smoke even better than your Rad's as that would be one hell of an endorsement.

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    You sir, have a lovely pipe.

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    it may smoke even better than your Rad's as that would be one hell of an endorsement.

    I seriously doubt this.

    Anyway, no disrespect here, but taking any one or two puffers' opinion about morta pipes is presumptive at best.

    I, too, am intrigued by 10,000 year old bog oak pipes and the works of Davorin, Rimensi, Moretti, Becker, Talbert and Askwith, to name a few. Still, regardless of how interesting and pretty morta pipes are -- taste being as important as performance if not more so -- before I zero in on any one of them and spending $300-$600 a morta, I'll have to find out a hell of a lot more about bog woof and all those who make these pipes than I know now.

    BTW, Massimiliano Rimensi (Il Duce, my running favorite morta maker), will be at the CPCC, so anyone attending who is interested in morta should probably seek him out.

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    Roth, this Moretti was $150. I thought that was a really good price. I can tell you it is a mean VAPER smoking machine. Just my two cents. I have pipes I criticize (don't even ask me about my Nording), but this ain't one of them. Just my 2 cents though.

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    My Becker does not get hot and draw hole is in the traditional place, maybe different makers do it different, Moretti is a favorite of mine I have 3 of his pipes and they were excellent smokers from the first puff. The old cajun

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    Roth, this Moretti was $150. I thought that was a really good price.

    A truly outstanding value! I'm happy you also love how it smokes, Peck.

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    Peck that was a steal, glad that you like it , they smoke really dry , by the way your pipe is an exquisite shape love it. The old cajun

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    Very nice Morta's Peck and Bradley!

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    Wow, love that Becker. I have an Askwith Morta in the works, otherwise I would hunt for a becker like that.

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    Just an update on this morta pipe. I finally tried smoking it with a straight VA - dunhill flake to be precise. There were a few times that I did notice a distinct "smokey" taste that I have never tasted with this blend before. I can only assume that this is from the morta. Now, I did not find it unpleasant, and it was only there a few times, but I did detect it. I can see why people say that a morta pipe is best devoted to VAPERs or English blends. Query whether this smoky taste will go away as the pipe becomes worked in more.

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    peck, interesting you got those flavors. Will you try to smoke through it with multiple bowls of VAA or do you think it it best just to leave it as a Vaper pipe? It is a damn good looking pipe and one hell of a price.

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    Peck, I'm surprised (and pleased) that you have determined that your morta smokes Va/Pers well. This is obviously important to me, as I smoke mostly Virginias and Va/Pers, with few English/Balkans and aromatics in my rotation. I'll be interested in your take on further smoking this morta, as well as the Askwith.

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    Previous to this, I had only smoked escudo and SJF in it. The perique in those blends I think made the morta taste unnoticeable (at least to my taste). I have only had about 7 bowls in it so far. I plan to try a straight VA in it again, but probably not until I've put another 10 or 15 bowls through her. To me this is a bit of an experiment.

    What I absolutely love about the pipe is that no moisture seemingly permeates the morta, and it therefore seems dry as bone right after you finish a smoke in it. I can see why people say you can smoke these things hard. We are leaving on a cruise to the carribean in a little over a week, and I plan to take only two pipes, of which this will be one. I think I can get away with having just two pipes with me given the characteristics of the morta described above. What I don't know is whether that mild smokey taste that I detect once every while will subside over time. If anyone has experience with a morta, I'd appreciate your thoughts.

    Interestingly, I also have a strawberry wood becker poker, and that thing doesn't impart any incremental taste. However, it does appear that it is more like briar in that it does have to be rested for a day or two to dry out after a smoke.

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    We are leaving on a cruise to the Caribbean in a little over a week, and I plan to take only two pipes, of which this will be one.

    Well that's a solid endorsement in and of itself.

    I'm thinking, from the little I know based on my own research, that Bog Wood varies. From the morta harvested in Ulm (Rattray), to the morta from the bottom of Lake Michigan (Russ Cook), there's got to be a huge dichotomy in how these morta pipes smoke.

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    That's a great point Roth. I don't have any clue where Moretti gets his Morta from, though I suspect it's not Lake Michigan.

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    I do know that a Lake Michigan morta volcano, slightly used, sold in a flash when listed by SPC this past Thursday --for a measly $150.

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    What about cake in morta pipes? Should it develope like in briar or must be cleaned out, like in meer?

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    Becker gets his Morta from a Bog in Germany, though I imagine any Bog will do LOL, mine tend to cake up fast, Roths scrape and paper towel method is used, I smoke only Nitecap in it, dry smoke like a Meer , also cool but when I smoke them I make myself to slow, slow puffs. The old cajun

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    Congrats on your morta - it's a great looking pipe. Really enjoyed reading this post, I learned a lot.

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    peckinpahhombre,
    I have 1 Morta by Tom Richard and tried my first smoke with Davidoff Flake Medallions which it took 3 to fill it. Smoked hot if pushed and got some hints of smokiness but went away as I smoked through the different layers of this tobacco. It smoked down to total ash and was so satisfying I am dedicating this pipe to this tobak and ordering more to cellar.

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    Davidoff Flake Medallions flies low on the TAD radar for most puffers and that's too bad.

    Think of it as PS Luxury Bullseye Flake, but with higher quality tobacco. Even though it has less Perique, it is sweeter and in some ways, better than Escudo (sacrilege here, I know!).

    I like it. Thanks for reminding me, fishnbanjo, I need to get some more of it.

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    Gorgeous pipe fish. I love the triation on the morta. The smoky scent in mine seem to be going away.

    I haven't smoked my new askwith morta yet, by Chris told me to "take it easy until I develop a nice even cke on the morta and to try to always keep the cake very thin and even"

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    I just ordered 5 tins....... I've read thinner than a dime as would be what is considered correct for a briar. Mine is just about an even thickness and will simply wipe it once cooled to maintain it. Chris is making some fine Morta pipes as would be expected.

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    Speaking of Rad Davis. I was looking at his past pipes and did not see any with bamboo shanks, anyone know if he offers this? I emailed him to ask and if he says yes I am considering commissioning a squashed tomato bowl Morta with a black bamboo 2 knuckle shaft with amber colored bit, if only plain bamboo is available then a Cumberland bit.

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    Well Rad Davis did get back to me and said he'd be glad to do up a pipe for me and is digging to find some Morta. In the mean time I added a Moretti to the fold.

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    Very nice. I decided to add one to the stable too. Will post up when I get a chance.

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    Gorgeous Moretti, fish. I love mine. Very pleased with how it smokes.

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    Wow, guys! Those are some beautiful pipes. I feel the stirring of a PAD attack taking hold...

    It's hard to soar like an eagle when you work with pigeons.
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    Peckin: my jaw literally dropped at the sight of that beautiful pipe!!

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    I now own 5 Morta pipes with one on commission with Rad.

    The Tom Richard

    The Moretti

    The Davorian Denovic

    The Becker

    The Askwith

    They all smoke extremely dry and wonderful.

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    fish, awesome looking Morta collection. Nice to hear you like how a Vaper flake smokes in it, have you smoked any straight Virginia Flakes in any of them and if so how do they perform?

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    I have never heard of this kind of pipe before and the grain and beauty of these pipes is just incredible. I had to look up morta because I didn't understand the reference someone made about cleaning them similarly to meerschaum. Semi petrified wood huh? Great, just something else I now HAVE to have.

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    Cigrmaster,
    So far I have smoked Davidoff Flake Medallions in the Richard and Askwith and they both smoked to nothing but ash of course this is a Vaper. I smoked Troost Slices in the Moretti and Caledonian Virginia Flake in the Davorian both smoked to ash but Davorian took more effort and I found the problem was the hole inside the bowl had a flap of wood that did not come off from the drilling and I fixed it but haven't smoked it since and plan to shortly. My next Morta smoke will be the Askwith with either FVF or some 1996 Red Flake and will reply my experience.
    banjo

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    I've a morta commission in the works from a U.S. pipe maker.

    We're fine tuning the details. The morta is Russian and carbon dated 3,500+ years old. It will be quite a while before our project is completed, but I'm in no hurry.

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    Can't wait to see your commission Roth.

    My Moretti smokes very well and I have not detected the smokey scent since the first 10 or 12 bowls.

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    Smoked some FVF in the Askwith Morta for the last pipe of the day with some Bromely's Estate Tea in the Pusser's Mug once the Weimaraner's had their evening constitutional. Great smoke picked up full VA flavor with hints I'd not tasted and a nice dry smoke to ash.

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