Longer, Analytical Posts

saltedplug · Jun 26, 2018

I always thought that complex topics could be discussed on the forum, and though they can, those who post such run the risk of others' posts who have motives secondary to the topic at hand. In a recent post my views were misrepresented and derided by not just one patriarch but two. The motive was control.
So often posts are very short, I suppose as internet users have the attention span of a wren, but if you say nothing no one can gainsay your view. On the other hand as soon as you say something at greater length, and especially if you claim to know something, there will be someone, I think because of turf issues, who says you don't.
Perhaps lurking is the answer or having done with forums altogether.
It is my most fervent hope that the patriarchs have a blessed day.

drbenway · Jun 26, 2018

I am a regular poster and article contributor to a 10th circle of hell bottom of the barrel movie review forum/site.

The guys on this site are bonafide saints compared to the forum members there. If you gave one of them your home adress they would probably mail you a dead cat.

This place is an online oasis.

weezell · Jun 26, 2018

And, a topic like this where there is no correct answer is even better. Thanks for posting this Salt. As always, I’ve enjoyed reading everyone’s opinions.

Yes!

Perhaps lurking is the answer or having done with forums altogether.
It is my most fervent hope that the patriarchs have a blessed day.

No!...

seacaptain · Jun 26, 2018

artificialme · Jun 27, 2018

@saltedplug : I know the post that you said "my views were misrepresented and derided". To me, that was not a problem. But maybe the others just give you some warnings so that post didn't trigger anymore attention from someone that maybe insulted. So took it as a medicine that could save you :worship:
About posts in the forum, it's interesting to see many people to debate in a topic. We just need to make our own judgement from theirs. So, no problem taken. It's all just how we see things, is it okay or nay

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About the other threads or topics here, sometimes I just browse to see funny comments and chaos there (and not for the information, hahaha). So lurking maybe fine. But, if you know something, it's better to share with all the wise people here.
Cheers saltedplug :clap:

cosmicfolklore · Jun 27, 2018

Dang, did I miss a derailing? : puffy

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Briar Baron · Jun 27, 2018

@saltedplug I enjoy the threads you start and also your comments. Do not let a few negatives restrict you since there are many who enjoy the posts but do not respond so you may disproportionately be exposed to negative feedback by those who do post. Just my 2c worth.

sablebrush52 · Jun 27, 2018

@saltedplug - I enjoy your posts. I don't always agree with you, but I respect your smarts and the topics that you choose to bring up. PM is a more free wheeling environment than other fora. Some people handle freedom better than others. There is some ball busting that goes on here, but really, seriously, what does it matter what some virtual infant thinks? Keep on keeping on.

ashdigger · Jun 27, 2018

I think what's missing is an engineered statement that refutes the conundrum of brevity for the sake of rational didactic profligation.

bnichols23 · Jun 27, 2018

"sake of rational didactic profligation." -- My head hurts.
Kidding, ash'. :^)
^^^ Tongue->cheek.

prairiedruid · Jun 27, 2018

If you gave one of them your home adress they would probably mail you a dead cat.

I have a dead squirrel only slightly used by the dog; who should I mail it to?

sasquatch · Jun 27, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvcnx6-0GhA

saltedplug · Jun 27, 2018

I think what's missing is an engineered statement that refutes the conundrum of brevity for the sake of rational didactic profligation.

Yes! It was profligate engineering that was always at the heart of the object's ascension. What engineering? You know. No, I don't. What engineering Can't say. So you say it's so important but won't say what it is? Right.
In fact some do say, and as they say substantively, some of the hot air of the term engineering is released. But I must disagree with the word "brevity" as there is nothing brief about the gazillions of references to engineering, over and over and over, by those who refer to its characteristics without a shred of meaning; yet "conundrum" hits as at the heart of engineering lies the mystery of those sublime smokes, that pipe smokers chase, that happen infrequently. Finally rationality is infrequent, never profligate.

bassbug · Jun 27, 2018

In a recent post my views were misrepresented and derided by not just one patriarch but two.

So what? F them if they cant have enough of an open mind

The motive was control.

I really doubt that. As far as I know the only one in control is the owner of the forum

if you say nothing no one can gainsay your view

But also, no one can learn anything they may not have known
Overall, this may sound a little glib but I would suggest some skin thickening ointment you can find around

As a wise old man once said "non carborundum illegetimi"
(don't let the bastards wear you down)

seacaptain · Jun 27, 2018

If you think the "engineering" discussion was contentious, you should check out my Mummert "art" thread from a couple of years ago. That was epic.

Chasing Embers · Jun 27, 2018

I still want one of these. Reminds me of the Star Trek IV alien probe.

woodsroad · Jun 27, 2018

So often posts are very short, I suppose as internet users have the attention span of a wren

I'd be careful about assuming anything about your fellow forum members.
The nature of the beast is that people check in here as time allows. Sometimes, it's when I'm double checking the grocery list while in the produce aisle. Yesterday it was while watching the AC tech scratch his ass while pondering my compressors.
Often, by he time I read a longer thread, someone like Warren or Ashdigger has already made my point, and done it far better than I ever could have. And when I do have a quiet, contemplative moment, it is usually over a bowl and a beverage, and I'd much rather watch the nature show in my backyard than stare at the little screen and debate someone who may, or may not be one of Kevin's multiple personalities.
I do appreciate those of you who take the time to elucidate your cerebral wanderings. But if you are concerned that other people might not share your opinions, or just want to debate them, or feel compelled to enrage rather than engage, so be it. Question your own motives. Why are you posting here? Are you looking for confirmation? An attaboy? Consolation? Baseless sympathy? Those are the primary reasons that people post to antisocial media. I would hope that doesn't apply to PM quite as much.
So, right now I'm avoiding work, which gives me plenty of time to post here. I gotta cut this shit out and get back to it.

seacaptain · Jun 27, 2018

Why are you posting here? Are you looking for confirmation? An attaboy? Consolation? Baseless sympathy?

saltyplug? :mrgreen:

mso489 · Jun 27, 2018

I guess I'm a Forums bobblehead, but I thought the discussion on engineering (if that's the one we're talking about) was animated, somewhat contentious, but not ugly like much/most of the online discussion. One of the surest ways to get locked into disputes is in discussions of diction (word choice), so that was built into the "engineering" analysis. I thought your expertise was valued (by me and others, at least). The patriarch assertion (speaking of word choice) paints all of us seniors with a broad brush. Likewise, writing short is a courtesy, allowing that many Forums members are under some pressures with other commitments; we're doing our best, and cumulatively, I have a longer dissertation on here than most, all but a few. So, I'd encourage you to keep on with your good work, and laugh off the badgering, which comes with the predominantly fraternal (male) nature of this group. More women would keep us in line, but they're not here in numbers, speaking of patriarch problems.

jpmcwjr · Jun 27, 2018

Usually, "patriarch" is used in a positive mode, but here it seems somewhat pejorative.
Can you please do some 'splainin' here? Am I one of those? And is that good, bad or indifferent? (Just looking for some "attaboys"....)
And were PM's a part of this? Real patriarchs don't chide in PMs.

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