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Is it My Speed or My Pipe?

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  1. thesmokingbrony

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    so i got a cheap pipe from the smoke shop the other day. and i got the bite pretty bad. so my question is. am i smoking to fast or is my pipe. my pipe was $40, it does not state a maker on it, it just says Italy. and i smoke pretty slow, except for the every now and then puff away which takes me like 10 seconds if that of just quick short puff. so in my mind its not me its the pipe so i thought id ask you guys. i looked at the bottom of my bowl and it shows that the hole is not lined up perfectly with the its like 3mm from the bottom. so just let me know what you guys think, thanks a lot =)

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    It could also be the tobacco. What kind of tobacco are you smoking? Aeromatics tend to bite more than other tobaccos.

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    I would lean towards the type of tobacco. I also find that aerobatics bite me more often than not.

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    It's not broken in,for one thing. And, as the previous two posters mention, if you are smoking aromatics (especially OTC aros), that could be part of your problem.

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    It could be the type of tobacco you're smoking -- it would really help us to know what it is -- and, as Jud said, the fact that it's not broken in yet.

    One other issue I've seen with cheap pipes -- and if it's branded, it would help to know the brand -- is that some are actually varnished with a shellac that gives them a beautiful -- and permanent! -- shine but which makes it impossible for the briar to breathe. The one varnished pipe I've tried would only smoke hot, and even sanding off the coating didn't help. (Probably because it was used on briar that hadn't been properly dried/aged.)

    Varnished or not, if the briar wasn't properly dried and aged, that could also contribute to an overly hot smoke, which in turn could lead to bite. And the odds of that being the case are higher with a low-priced briar than with something that cost, say, in the $80-100 range.

    Finally, and this is probably the least likely scenario, you may be encountering an adverse reaction to perique (if the blend contains perique). I experience this myself, but I've never encountered anyone else with the same problem: When I smoke a blend with perique in it -- no matter how small a portion -- I get a sensation like needles piercing my mouth. When I was a younger smoker, I called this "tongue bite." I've since discovered it's more like an allergic reaction. But I've discussed this with a number of tobbaconists (and even Greg Pease) and they've never heard of anyone else having this kind of reaction. But I'll throw it out there, just in case.

    Bob

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    Finally, and this is probably the least likely scenario, you may be encountering an adverse reaction to perique (if the blend contains perique). I experience this myself, but I've never encountered anyone else with the same problem: When I smoke a blend with perique in it -- no matter how small a portion -- I get a sensation like needles piercing my mouth. When I was a younger smoker, I called this "tongue bite." I've since discovered it's more like an allergic reaction. But I've discussed this with a number of tobbaconists (and even Greg Pease) and they've never heard of anyone else having this kind of reaction. But I'll throw it out there, just in case.

    I have had a similar reaction to two different blends that were described as having Turkish tobaccos in them. I made a post about this a week or so ago. I am not trying to hijack this thread - just noting adverse reactions to certain tobaccos may not be as rare as you think.

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    One other reason it could be is if you are smoking blends that are heavy in red Virginia's, I have a body chemistry thing that makes them un-smokeable for me. I get an acid burn on my tongue the minute the smoke hits it.

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    flintlockjohn and cigrmaster:

    Wow, sorry to hear about your own -- I'll call them allergic reactions -- to certain leaf. I'd seen people's posts here about red Virginias, but had attributed that merely to their tendency to require great care when smoking. (There's definitely a sharpness there.) But it hadn't really sunk in that your reactions were actually similar to my own physical response to perique. (While I enjoy an occasional red Virginia, I love Turkish leaf. I'm very sorry you can't enjoy it, flintlockjohn!)

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    Thanks for joining and posting up Travis.

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    flintlockjohn and cigrmaster:

    Wow, sorry to hear about your own -- I'll call them allergic reactions -- to certain leaf. I'd seen people's posts here about red Virginias, but had attributed that merely to their tendency to require great care when smoking. (There's definitely a sharpness there.) But it hadn't really sunk in that your reactions were actually similar to my own physical response to perique. (While I enjoy an occasional red Virginia, I love Turkish leaf. I'm very sorry you can't enjoy it, flintlockjohn!)

    Bob

    After years of smoking English tobaccos (mostly PS Proper English and Larry's Blend), I had recently tried PS Balkan Supreme and was really enjoying it. After a couple of bowls, however, I noticed some soreness in my mouth similar to the reaction I have to raw tomatoes. I tried another tobacco and it also drew a poor reaction from my mouth. When I checked the blends, both were described as having Turkish tobaccos in them.
    So I guess I will have to cross those off my list, much as I was enjoying the Balkan Supreme.

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    Of course a physical reaction to one or more certain strains and/or types of tobacco leaf could be in play here, but I'm thinking, you being a near virgin to pipe smoking and smoking a new pipe, the crux of your issue is this:

    * You're smoking in a new briar pipe. The drilling is off, but that should not impact much on your tongue bite (you may want to research "pipe mud" and fix that though). A new pipe can burn a bit hot and as mentioned, sealed finishes acerbate the problem. To migigate this, see below.

    * Yep, your tobacco can be the problem, or a part of it. Try drying a bowlful of the tobacco on a piece of paper or a plate until it no longer clumps together -- depending on the tobacco blend, this can take 10 minutes or several hours (in the case of highly cased aromatics, it can take a day or two).

    * check your packing technique. I drop pinches in the bowl, finger tamp lightly until it feels "springy" at the top of the full bowl.

    * You believe you are smoking slowly, but it's been my experience that puffers, new to the pipe, have the hardest time getting their cadence down. I suggest you sip slowly. Then slow down some more. Then still slower. Don't worry about re-lights (you shouldn't have a huge problem with re-lights anyway if you dried the tobacco properly).

    *Use matches, Zippo or a soft butane lighter. Avoid torches. Take care not to burn the pipe's rim while lighting (a little saliva on the finger, wiped around the rim mitigates burning somewhat too).

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  12. lyle

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    Before getting down on your pipe or tobacco, I'd just suggest it's just because you're a new smoker. My advice would be to wait until your tongue feels better, and then put a pipe's worth of tobacco out on a peice of paper until it is really dry, almost crispy. This will make the pipe very easy to smoke. Then, load it up and smoke as slowly as you can--you only want to see a tiny whisp of smoke. If the bowl gets too hot to touch, put it down until it cools off.

    I will bet this makes for a much easier time. Don't get discouraged! Almost everyone gets bit when they're new.

    Oh, and it's okay to take an occasional big puff. Making a nice big cloud of smoke every once in a while is part of the fun!

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    thank you all for the great posts. to all of you that suggested that my tobacco is to "moist" it is, or seems so. this is why i joined the forum, cuz here in holland michigan. there are not many pipe smokers to learn from. so thank you again for the great advise. im setting out some tobacco to let dry right now. if that dosnt work, then youll know lol. btw, rmbittner. i do sometime have that reaction you speak of. i cant even drink water without the sensation of needles in my mouth, let alone when i brush my mouth, that is truly a definition of pain.

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