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How To Prevent Rim Charring?

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  1. johnmosesbrowning

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    I love my pipes and I hate that I char the rims. No matter how careful I am, lighter or matches, the draft, breeze, or wind always seems to push the flame and chars the edge of the rim nearest me.

    All help, tips, pointers, advice, and commiserations are welcome and appreciated.

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  2. donjgiles

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    The key is to keep the bowl level and to keep the fire above the rim and use your drawl to suck the flame into the bowl.

    Don

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    What Don said, plus, a little layer of saliva on the rim helps too.

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    Don't touch the flame to the tobacco. Like Don said...hold the flame above the tobacco and draw the flame down.

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    I use a zippo. A couple of times per bowl I'll wet a finger with saliva and rub the rim. That's all. My pipes look as new.

    Smoking is one of the leading causes of all statistics.
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    Avoid Thai food. That stuff will char a rim every time.

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    -Edward Teach
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    What all the guys said above.

    I bet- I hope- that the rims are not actually charred, but coated only with lava/cake/carbon. That can be removed and a drop of mineral oil or a spot of wax will fix it right up.

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    With your talk of breezes, it sounds like you smoke outside. I never have charring problems because I only smoke indoors and only use matches whose flame is easy to direct carefully.

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  9. sablebrush52

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    Spit on the rim, a soft flame, don't pack right up to the rim, etc can help mitigate the amount of rim char. Rims will still get a little dark over time, regardless.

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  10. brooklynpiper

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    Proper light source.

    Don't pack the bowl so high I've heard.

    Rim spit helps but is unnecessary (title of another book I'm writing)

    Even when I have to smoke inside, I often light inside to not have to deal with the wind.

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  11. timelord

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    Avoid Thai food. That stuff will char a rim every time.

    For lovers of Indian food Vindaloo's have a similar effect. My local Indian does a couple of special curries (one chicken and the other goat) which are way off the scale; they will tone them down if asked but even then they make a normal Vindaloo seem fairly tame (writing this is making me hungry!).

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    As the member Irishearl I'm smoking indoors /cars mainly and for the charring light I tend to use matches only,for the relights,depending on the width of the bowl I use either soft flame lighter or matches again,I'm noticing tall-narrower bowl rims tend to darken more

    Paul The Scandinavian'
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    Do not use your pipe while engaged in pyroflatulence rituals and your rim will be just fine!!

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    don't pack right up to the rim

    I remember Mike Glukler imploring pipe smokers to not overpack the bowl, guess he was tired of cleaning rims...

    Al

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    The finish on some pipes seem to do much better than others. Spit is what I've always heard, and sometimes do. Like baseball pitchers with a spit ball, you can do it in polite company without anyone noticing. I tolerate a little char as the sign of a well-loved pipe.

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    Leave at least 1/8” from the top when you load, that will help.

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    The key is to keep the bowl level and to keep the fire above the rim and use your drawl to suck the flame into the bowl.

    Don


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    And remember, charring is bad. But a slight darkening over time is very natural, expected, and not a bad thing.

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    For those who do get a little restorations, are we bleaching?

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    No bleach, ever, on my briars. After scrubbing off the lava, drying, I apply a very slight bit of mineral oil, and it looks just right to me.

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    I meant our buttholes

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    For those who do get a little restorations, are we bleaching?

    I was unfortunately shown tie-dying recently.

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    Bleaching? I was wondering, I’ve soaked stems of estates in an oxiclean solution and them scrubbed them inside when dealing with a nasty estate before. It might force a rework of purging the oxidation from the outside. But I had great results and no damage that I could tell. Does that sound crazy to anyone?

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    Avoid Thai food. That stuff will char a rim every time.

    My great-uncle Paul used to say, whenever he'd have Thai food he'd eat ice cream afterwards, and then the next day he'd say, "C'mon ice cream!!"

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    With your talk of breezes, it sounds like you smoke outside.

    Indeed. It's odd how the slightest breeze seems to always take the flame right toward me and darkens the on the stummel/six o'clock side of the bowl.

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    Ok, so for sure I'm over packing/filling the bowl and for sure I'm stuffing the flame down too close still. I'll try the saliva trick along with these tips and see if I can't improve. Many thanks for all the advice!

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    Any advice on how to remove black gunk from the rim to determine if it's just cosmetic or if I've actually charred them?

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    I found this in another thread posted by Cosmic:

    Coffee is a mild acid that removes the toughest baked on rim char.

    I'll give it a try!

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  29. chasingembers

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    Saliva and a paper towel work better.

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    It's blasphemy but I like the look of a pipe with heavily charred/burned rim. I'm not talking some minor darkening that can be cleaned away, but heavy "my pipe as been transformed into a relic" kind of burning. I think it's cool. I have an 90 year old uncle with several pipes in that condition. I love em.

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    I can understand that.

    How bout some photos of those old beauties?

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    I don't have pictures of my uncle's pipes. But Madox07 posted a pipe a while back that's coming along nicely. With a few more decades of hard smoking it should reach the relic stage:

    https://i.postimg.cc/66zJq2f5/a8cb0ab7c78d331805300914a5771ee0-1119827-1000-1000.jpg

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    Once your photos are on a photo hosting site (such as Imgur.com; Postimage; Dropbox, etc. Photobucket), or on virtually any site, including this site's album such as eBay; Amazon Pinterest; Facebook; an online Pipe retailer; you-name-it, select the full sized image, then Control-click (Mac) or Right-click (Windows) on the image itself, then choose "copy image location" or similar words. Now paste that URL (the full web address, which should end in .jpg or .png) into the IMG box in the reply window of the thread you're posting to.

    The site's album is also a good choice for displaying photos, and the same method works for obtaining the image's URL for copying into the IMG box.

    There are other good illustrations and steps on how to post photos under "Latest Discussions" in different formats:
    LINK to that thread

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  34. sablebrush52

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    A sure fire method is, simply, don't smoke the pipe. Just put it on a shelf, and occasionally prostrate yourself before it.

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    I was taught this trick many years ago. Simply rub a very light coat of Vaseline around the rim. When done smoking, just wipe it off.

    Pipestud
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    Saliva or Vaseline on the rim, noted though that just doesn't sound right.

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  37. johnmosesbrowning

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    While keeping with the "just doesn't sound right" - the biggest reason I bring it up is that I really like a nice looking rim (Savinelli Roma, or better yet Neil Monier @ GarageMadePipeTool as examples) and I hate to spend money on one until I get better smoking habits.

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    I like a well used pipe that looks like someone has really enjoyed it. It makes you wonder where that pipe has been. What stories it might be able to tell if only it could.

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    This is one of Instagram pipejokes from last year. I hope it helps.

    Michael
    Posted 1 week ago #
  40. chasingembers

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    Where can I see a demo of that?

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