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zonomo

Lifer
Nov 24, 2012
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I ordered some HH Mature Virginia. I have a few questions that I hope someone can answer please. My understanding that this is not considered an English Blend but a Virginia tobacco. Are they different? Would this be considered in the middle between an aro and an English or is it closer to an English. IMPORTANT: Do I need to have a dedicated pipe for this tobacco? When I was at the Seattle Pipe Club meeting, someone mentioned that he has separate pipes for his English's and his aros. Thanks everyone - I am excited to try this out. :puffpipe:

Z
Edit: Fixed your title for you, L.

 

dervis

Lifer
Jan 30, 2012
1,597
1
Hazel Green AL
Not familiar with the blend other than just online reviews, Interested to know your take on it.

I do have my pipes in 3 split classifications, Aros, Vir, and English. However I dont stick to that 100% of the time.

 

crpntr1

Lifer
Dec 18, 2011
1,981
156
Texas
Its not English, pipe dedication is up to you..I do have mine about the same as dervis, eng aro and va, and I dont hold to that 100%, except with a few. Lat pipes only get blends with lat in them, I have one that only gets FVF, one only for VaPers, and the others get whatever. I only smoke a couple aros tho

 

zonomo

Lifer
Nov 24, 2012
1,584
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ok good to know. I think I just may have to pick up another pipe just in case. 8)

 

rmbittner

Lifer
Dec 12, 2012
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1,995
zonomo:
Some folks divide all tobaccos between "aromatics" and "English" blends, just as an easy generalization. Technically, though, an "English" consists primarily of Virginias, orientals, and latakia. Latakia seems to be one of the defining tobaccos of a true English blend. (Such definitions aren't set in stone, however.)
Your HH Mature Virginia is something of an oddity, in my opinion. To me, if you call something "Mature Virginia," then it should be exactly that: a matured Virginia blend. According to the information at TobaccoReviews.com, though, this blend actually has 22 different tobaccos in it! It also includes burley, orientals, and cavendish. So, again in my opinion, it will taste nothing like a matured Virginia that is made solely of matured Virginias. For example, it might be interesting to compare this blend with others, such as Butera's Royal Vintage: Matured Ribbon. I think you'll notice a distinct difference. (I should also confess that I'm not a big MacBaren fan. I have no idea how they got to be so popular.)
As Chris mentions, pipe dedication is up to you. I do it -- I have at least seven pipes for every different category of tobacco I smoke (and that includes straight Virginias, Virginia/burley flakes, English blends, Balkan blends, aromatics -- which I only smoke rarely -- and Penzance, the only individual blend for which I have dedicated pipes). I do think I notice a difference by doing this; it seems easier to get the most from each particular type of blend. That said, I went for several years with just three or four pipes, smoked everything in all of them, and enjoyed them. If that's your choice, just keep in mind that it typically takes at least three bowls of a blend before the previous blend disappears and you can really taste what you're currently smoking. (And there are a few blends that are notorious for permanently "ghosting" a pipe with their flavor.)
Bob

 

numbersix

Lifer
Jul 27, 2012
5,449
53
I am in the camp of not dedicating my aros to a specific pipe. I just don't own enough pipes to do it. At the same time, I don't smoke a tobacco that heavily ghosts a pipe (or at least not ones that my feeble tastes buds can detect).
One day, when I own over 20 Rad Davis pipes and 20 Dunhills, I may do it! lol.

 

kcghost

Lifer
May 6, 2011
13,499
22,066
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Olathe, Kansas
Virginias do not tolerate ghosting very well. You may end up going through 15-20 bowls before the ghost goes away, if it ever does. Some Aros are pernicious in their ghosting. You really need a pipe or pipes dedicated to Virginias.

 

zonomo

Lifer
Nov 24, 2012
1,584
5
No flaming please but I dont know what Ghosting is, what causes it or why its a bad thing. Sorry. :cry:

 

crpntr1

Lifer
Dec 18, 2011
1,981
156
Texas
flavors left in a pipe

sometimes last several bowls of another blend

this is why most people dedicate pipes

 

fitzy

Lifer
Nov 13, 2012
2,937
27
NY
Zonomo no worries. Ghosting is when you smoke a particular blend that leaves it's taste behind when you smoke other blends. Some aromatic's are well known for this due to their having been cased. For example the Pete's Holiday Blend I can taste for a few bowls after. Because of this I tend to have 1 pipe for Aro's, 1 for English and 1 for Virginia's.
If your looking to try English blends I'd suggest you go out and get yourself some Frog Morton's or Frog Morton's cellar. They are almost like a cross between an aromatic and an English. I would also suggest H&H's Black House.
I just recently moved from aro's myself and I've found I like English/Balkan blends but I'm having a hard time finding the enjoyment in Virginia's.

 

zonomo

Lifer
Nov 24, 2012
1,584
5
Thanks guys. Now that you've explained it, its seems kinda obvious now. ha haa. I dont think ive experienced that since i've only smoked aros. Not sure I'll ever get to the English's due to my sig-other.

 

zonomo

Lifer
Nov 24, 2012
1,584
5
Well the best part of this (so far having not actually smoked it yet) is searching for a new pipe. :D

 

judcole

Lifer
Sep 14, 2011
7,186
33,560
Detroit
You've gotten good comments on the HHMV. It's a pretty nice blend.
I have latakia and virginia rotations, and I just keep 'em on different racks. Easiest way to keep it straight, IMO. :puffy:

 

taerin

Lifer
May 22, 2012
1,851
1
Virginia blends are my favorite, I smoke them out of a dedicated pipe. I also dedicate pipes to English (latakia blends), and aromatics.
The problem with aromatics is their flavors are so light and delicate that any other type of tobacco will ghost over them and make it hard to taste the aromatic. Virginia blends are not really a middleman, they are very simular to English blends, but seem more natural and sweet tasting, they also age really really well.

 

zonomo

Lifer
Nov 24, 2012
1,584
5
Thanks rothnh - I did not know that and would have opened and smoked right away. I'll definitely let everyone know this noob's experience smoking this Virg. I'm kinda excited about it. :D

 
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