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Flakes Really Aren't As Difficult As You May Think

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  1. anthonyrosenthal74

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    I know, I know, I know... You take a flake that's been sitting out drying on a paper towel for 364 days, fold it in half, stuff it in your pipe, and then you light it with one of these....

    ...everything erupts into a glorious ball of flame, the briar wood is now charcoal, the stem melted and slowly dripping on the floor like some weird black cheese, the flake tobacco appears to be miraculously untouched.

    You come on a forum such as this seeking help, after browsing smokingpipes.com for a new pipe to replace the one that just went defcon 1, seeking help and or divine intervention... the pipe gods seem to have frowned upon you. You are answered with pipe chamber sizes, drying times, and basically every alternative to the fold and stuff technique. You've heard it all before, and a lot of it is entirely correct... but you shouldn't have to give up the fold and stuff technique. I've discovered it's actually quite simple and I enjoy flakes regularly now, folded and stuffed in multiple different pipes. I'm actually enjoying some flake right now in a chamber some would consider too wide for flake.

    To me (and perhaps your mileage may vary) the most important thing is flake size to chamber size comparison. Some pipes may take two flakes, some may only take one, and with the difference in flake sizes you may need to adjust the size of the flake to fit your pipe of choice.

    For the meerschaum I'm smoking right now I took two full flakes of John Aylesbury Dragon Flake and tore off a small strip from the side of both, folded them in half and stuffed them into my pipe. That extra little bit can be rubbed out and replace in the tin to use for kindling later. The folded side of the flake tends to break apart a little and when I place them in the pipe that side goes up. I'll take my pipe tool and lightly scrape the top to break it apart just a bit more. Light, let go out, scrape it lightly again, lightly tap it with the tamper and light it again. After this my flake tends to burn as well as any other blend, and sometimes better. Dragon Flake by the way is an aromatic flake.

    It's as simple as that. Let the flake dry a bit, match the flake size to the pipe and adjust as necessary (a little trial and error, but you'll get it), fold, stuff, break apart the top just a bit, light well, scape the top again a bit, light tap, light well and enjoy.

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    Going to give your method a go the next time smoke some ODF Flake. Been rubbing it out the last several smokes because it can never keep the sucker lit if I fold and stuff. Could be I'm using too much, but I'll play with it some more until I get a decent to good result.

    Nice post there, Anthony. I'm one of the few that always looked to the forums, but did find a lot of what you mentioned instead of what I needed. Maybe you hit the right spot.

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    Good tutorial on fold-and-stuff.

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    It does take some trial and error. Leaving just enough space in the chamber for the flake to expand really helps keep things going. Great post!

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    Thanks guys. I hope it helps someone struggling with flakes. I feel like if done properly, even a completely new pipe smoker can enjoy fold and stuffed flakes.

    Leaving just enough space in the chamber for the flake to expand really helps keep things going.
    Oops! Yes, I left that out, and it's a very important factor. With too much in the chamber, the flake after expanding will become too tight of a pack.

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    I smoke so much flake I find it easier to load and pack than ribbon cut.

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    With too much in the chamber, the flake after expanding will become too tight of a pack.

    Makes sense , last fold and stuff flake I tried seemed to go out periodically at nearly perfect intervals

    The one before that ran perfectly , smooth as a babies butt

    Now what to do with the bits sticking out on top which I pinch off ..

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    Now what to do with the bits sticking out on top which I pinch off ..
    Kindling. Put them back in the tin, next smoke, take some of the little bits in the tin and sprinkle it over the top. It will be dryer than the flake and help get a good first light going.

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    I smoke so much flake I find it easier to load and pack than ribbon cut.

    This is my current experience. It's one of those things that I do almost unconsciously anymore.

    But thank you for the entertaining read.

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    Good advice. I’m still learning and have not yet folded and stuffed, just rub it out. But, going to try it this week.

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    I'll have to give 'fold & stuff' another try, frustration has caused rubbing out to occur ...

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    That was a great narrative, Anthony. Good on you. I fold and stuff more frequently over the past year, it took me forever to get comfortable with the technique.

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    I’m still learning and have not yet folded and stuffed, just rub it out. But, going to try it this week.

    I'll have to give 'fold & stuff' another try, frustration has caused rubbing out to occur ...

    Great! Good luck to you both. I hope what I've posted helps you in some way. Fold and stuff is quite rewarding in the flavor and length of smoke.

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    A loose pack is crucial for those wanting to give it a go. Rub out kindling as stated above to get a good burn going, and sit back for a long smoke.

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    DubInTheDam has a REALLY good YouTube video on loading flakes, showing how he does it himself. I pretty much do exactly what he does and it's worked great for me for the past five years or so. Basically he takes a flake or two (maybe one and a half depending on bowl size) folds it in half length wise then folds that vertically leaving a bit of a u shape at the bottom and pinching the top of it together. Then he rubs out the bottom just a bit and gently stuffs that into the bowl.

    For me flakes usually take a bit more effort to get going, but once you do they basically smoke themselves. For me fold and stuffing usually has a slower cooler burn with flavors dancing a bit more.

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    Brilliant post,will be a big help to me.

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    Mastering the fold and stuff method is pretty much the final frontier of pipe packing techniques. The best advice is to account for the expanding tobacco and don't pack too tight to begin with. Finally mastering the method has breathed new life into blends I had given up on or thought to be not worth the effort.

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    Here’s a link to the video mentioned by lordofthepiperings.

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    OK, I’m right now in the middle of my first fold and stuff experience. Wow! Great results so far.

    I watched the video above. Picked a smaller bowl pipe - and older Paronelli briar (great smoker) and grabbed a Flake from my jar of Mac Baren Navy Flake and got going. Was concerned about how “dense” it seemed to be packed because I’ve been following the adage to dry it more than you think and pack it looser than you think and having great smokes with very few relights. I’m using my Czech tool pick to keep a draw hole poked down the middle and this bowl is going great. No relights so far. It’s staying very well lit and drawing nicely. Plus, with the pace I’m going, this bowl should easily last an hour whereas this pipe is normally down to dottle in about half an hour.

    Thanks for the advice and a nice new experience!

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    I just rub the flake out and dry it like any other tobacco. Works great! I would like to experiment some more with the fold-and-stuff method, but I have a hard time imagining that it has any significant effect on the smoking experience. Of course I will delay judgment on that issue until after successfully folding and stuffing multiple times.

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    Okay, so what happens if you have a um....friend...yeah, that uh, accidentally lost a small baggie of some ODF he was gifted a number of months ago and uh....it was just found. My friend, see, he pulled out a flake and picked a pipe, but when he tried to fold it, it uh, just kind of broke all over the place and he had to hold it with two hands to keep it together. You see, it had, uh....dried a tinsy, tiny amount more that it probably should have been and instead of being somewhat pliant, it kind of...practically snapped like a dried twig. I'm not talking about a fresh-ish twig from last week, I'm talking more like a 15 year old twig that somehow didn't rot.

    What should my friend do then? Just go on ahead and rub it out?

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    What should my friend do then?
    If I were your "friend," I would just rub it out in that case. Or you could jar it up with a paper towel dampened with distilled water and attempt to re-hydrate it.

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    Rehydrating is soooo last year. Now everyone smokes stuff bone dry.

    Smoking is one of the leading causes of all statistics.
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    Rehydrating is soooo last year. Now everyone smokes stuff bone dry.

    That's what I heard, I reckon I've been....I mean uh...my friend's been hip and trendy this whole time and didn't know any better!

    If I were your "friend," I would just rub it out in that case. Or you could jar it up with a paper towel dampened with distilled water and attempt to re-hydrate it.

    Thanks! I'll...I mean uh...I'll tell my friend to just break it up from now on, there's not enough to try to re-hydrate, I wouldn't think, so I should, I mean HE should be okay to just rub them out until it's gone.

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    This got me thinking about curly cuts like Three nuns or Cabbies mixture -- Would be curious to hear how you guys smoke curly cuts: rubbed out, stuff straight from the tin, or somewhere in between....

    I have always rubbed these out and never really considered any other way.

    Trey

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    Rehydrating is soooo last year. Now everyone smokes stuff bone dry.

    Back when I joined this board a couple years ago, everyone rotated / rested their pipes, and cleaned them on occasion with alcohol!

    I am on board with drying my tobacco until its a couple hairs short of crispy. I am also willing to give a hot water rinse a try for cleaning purposes, and admit that there seems to be a scientific basis for the concern about alcohol's effect on a pipe's structure (silicates / molecular level stuff). However, refusing to rest your pipes is a step too far!

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    Rehydrating is soooo last year. Now everyone smokes stuff bone dry.

    I realize it was a joke, but I don't think all of us do the same things at all concerning our pipes. We seem to have well blended forum of diversity when it comes to what we do with our pipes. And, if it proves anything, it proves that you don't have to do the same thing as anyone else to get the most enjoyment from your pipes.

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    I realize it was a joke, but I don't think all of us do the same things at all concerning our pipes. We seem to have well blended forum of diversity when it comes to what we do with our pipes. And, if it proves anything, it proves that you don't have to do the same thing as anyone else to get the most enjoyment from your pipes.

    Exactly. I mean, this forum has helped me a lot since I picked the pipe back up and getting all those suggestions from pipe smokers that do all sorts of things differently, can give a new pipe smoker the opportunity to try it all and keep what he likes, kick what he don't, and maybe find his own way by weaving different techniques or philosophies from everywhere and coming up with what works for him. Without this forum and other online resources, however, a new smoker might not find his way quite as quickly and be on his way to enjoying the full range of tobacco and pipe possibilities. It takes all kinds and all sorts of methods that are put forth to us here to try before we find OUR path, OUR way of doing things. You gotta start somewhere, and this place is one of the best to start.

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    different techniques or philosophies

    Philosophies, Pfffft, I don't believe in philosophies. They are all bunk. That is my rationalization, anyways.

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    Soft flakes like Dragon are easy to fold and stuff. In my opinion Dragon is the perfect humidity right out of the tin. Denser flakes like Old Dark Fired and my bulk Samuel Gawith Flakes I will cube cut and then dry for as long as needed. The cube cut still gives a nice slow burn which adds to the flavors. I never rub out a flake.

    Coins like Cabbies Mixture, Escudo and Dunhill Navy Rolls I just fold and stuff. I always make sure I leave enough space for the tobacco to expand, that is crucial with fold and stuff.

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    Rubbing out still brings out the most flavor for me, however when I'm lazy I just fold and stuff.

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    I always rub out my flakes, i tried fold and stuff and i failed miserably

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    Nice post Anthony! I need one of those chipmunks with the cute little blow torch. That must be dangerous I wonder if their life expectancy is under 10 minutes like a WW2 soldier?!

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    Nice post Anthony! I need one of those chipmunks with the cute little blow torch. That must be dangerous I wonder if their life expectancy is under 10 minutes like a WW2 soldier?!
    I'm not certain. That little guy made it though. After the war he started a nice little family in Oregon, and became a nut farmer.

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    A tall narrow bowl smokes flake brilliantly. Instead of "fold and stuff", I just wad up flakes like MegaMillions tickets I am throwing away after my billion dollar dreams are crushed.

    Everyone gets so fancy with their packing techniques, I just let the narrow bowl keep the wadded up flake or broken flake taut.

    I have a Kaywoodie Unique that no matter what I stuff in it, I rarely even need to relight. Including those Sutliff Mocha Strips.

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    Thanks for sharing this method. It’s working much better for me than other methods I’ve tried previously. It works great, too, for certain broken flakes that are packaged neatly. For example, I’m smoking Sixpence as I type. I just pinched a bit of it, holding it together in a small, loose log and stuffed it in my Peterson system pipe. Cool, slow-burning, easy to keep lit, and flavorful. Perfect!

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    Well after a few more attempts....

    Success more than less

    Patience to let the damn tobacco dry seemed to be my biggest problem.

    Thanks for the tips, now back to my pipe and ODF.....mmmmmmmmm

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    Patience to let the damn tobacco dry seemed to be my biggest problem.
    I'll sometimes set a couple of flakes out on a paper towel before I leave for work, to smoke when I get home... especially on humid days. I have a flake of John Aylesbury Dragon Flake already folded and stuffed into a Peterson 106 for when I get home from work tonight. I think it will be good to go by then. It often depends on the flake itself. Some are more moist than others, some are thicker than others, and that all determines dry times, especially on humid days. Good to know you had some success!

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    Can't say I like flakes.

    A week ago I pulled some Dan's Choo Choo Train out of the jar, rubbed it out as thoroughly as I could, left it out for ~30 min to dry, packed it.... total disaster. Damn thing just couldn't stay lit for more than 15 seconds. Light, puff, relight, puff, relight, puff, relight got old really fast. I ended up tossing out ~1/4 to 1/3 of the bowl, and my tongue was already complaining.

    Damn shame, because there was good flavour there, when I could taste it that is.

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    While flakes take more lights to keep going than ribbons for me, I don't have inordinate difficulty with them. I'll tear of pieces of them and stuff in the bowl. It's only when the flakes have been thick where I had real trouble. Seems as I recall-it's been years since I had it-that FVF was such.

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    I haven't mastered fold and stuff, but I will. Main thing with flakes, coin, plug, rope, is to take your time. If you need quick results, prep the tobacco in advance or go to a loose cut blend. But flake and the other solid cuts are really good smokes once you get a routine you like.

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    I break the flake in half (longways, with the grain, size depends on the bowl of course; most of my bowls are small so a half flake is about right), I fold the flake in half (end to end), then twist it as push it in (folded end first). Then tamp it down (pretty hard) and top up as needed with some rubbed out, or if it is sticking out I just twist it off the excess and tamp again. I don't have much trouble.

    I think it is important not to try to fit too big a flake in, it expands as you twist, tamp, and burn.

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    In my experience, there are a few flakes that loose something if dried out. I recently picked up some Fribourgh & Treyer Special Brown Flake that fit this description. Smoked straight from the tin it is wonderful, but dried for a few hours and it lost the magic.

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    I'll pop a tin and let it sit open for a week. The flakes will still need drying. Always remember: less is not more. More is n't even more. Even more is more, but you need more still. Dry those flakes more more more.

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    I tried the fold and stuff once with my first flake, but it did not go well. Then I had good luck with just rubbing them out, and I never tried fold and stuff again. Maybe I'll give it another shot.

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    and I never tried fold and stuff again. Maybe I'll give it another shot.

    It's certainly well worth trying again, in my opinion. The flavor you get from a folded flake as opposed to rubbed out, is so much better.

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    Anthony, Amen. I just give it a tad of a slight twist while stuffing.

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    Z-fold flakes for shallower bowls, though always with a twist while stuffing.

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    I’m giving folding and stuffing another go on Scottish Flake at the moment. Let it dry quite a bit beforehand. So far so good. A few delights but very tasty.

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    I’m in the same boat as many, I tried to fold and stuff and basically wasted a fair bit of tasty flake. Couldn’t get it lit, couldn’t get it to stay lit. You all have inspired me to give it another go. The flavor is supposed to be divine. Maybe the (lack of) drying time was part of the problem.

    “There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion”.
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    If for some reason your pipe is too full when you check the draw before lighting. You should run a pipe cleaner through it and it can loosen it up so it is perfect to light up. During a smoke if my draw gets a tad tight, I will use a pipe cleaner to loosed it up. Pipe cleaners are your friend when folding and stuffing.

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