Dunhill London 107 before, after and the dating issue

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vlodko

Starting to Get Obsessed
Sep 25, 2013
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Hi All,
There's one of the recently restored pipes. The stamping says "A", "DUNHILL LONDON". "*", "MADE IN ENGLAND PAT № 1343253 /20", "107". The dating is a bit complicated - there's no year suffix. Pipephil states it can be either 1927 or 1941. I am in a doubt so far: there's no "Inner tube" stamp (typical for older Bruyeres) but the pipe says "PAT №", not the "US PAT", what refers to a time before 1934. Any advices and suggestions are strongly welcome.
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johnnyreb

Lifer
Aug 21, 2014
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Vlodko,
I am just learning Dunhill coding after recently acquiring a 1932 Bruyere so take this for what it's worth. To what you have pointed out I would add that the Bruyere "A" stamp is typical of 1941 and not the earlier "Ao" Bruyere stamp. My keyboard can't make the small dot o but I'm sure you follow.
My 1932 Dunhill Bruyere U.S. PATENT 1861910/32 is not stamped "Inner tube" either but it obviously has one. Here's the thread with my as found pics:
http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/1932-dunhill-bruyere-us-patent-186191032-186191033

 

dmcmtk

Lifer
Aug 23, 2013
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My first thought is the 1940's, for some reading on the subject, see here from John Loring,
http://loringpage.com/pipearticles/Hypothetical%20WWII%20Pipe.htm
I have two Shell's marked in the way Loring describes.

 

vlodko

Starting to Get Obsessed
Sep 25, 2013
107
17
Ukraine
Johnny, Dave,
thank you very much for your response. The point regarding the "small o" is really very usable and the Loring's article describes the situation very precisely. Thus most probably my pipe was really made in 1941 (or 1940's).
The five-pointed star is also an interesting stamp, but as far I have investigated it's a sign of one of the Dunhill resellers. At least Dunhill said they never stamped such stars on the pipes.
It seems sometimes I spend less time for the restoration than for the detailed investigation :)

 

dmcmtk

Lifer
Aug 23, 2013
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Here is a little more on the subject,
http://www.apassionforpipes.com/neills-blog/2012/11/2/a-wartime-treasure.html
Your pipe being a smooth finish, given what Loring and Neill Roan talk about is, I would say, fairly uncommon.

 
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