Cumberland Care

michaelmirza · Apr 21, 2016

I just got my first pipe with a Cumberland stem, this beautiful poker from OldSchoolPipes (the "secret" alias of a certain renowned pipe maker who happens to patron these forums). I absolutely love the pipe and want to cherish it well. I bought it with the intent of having it be my new hands-free/active smoker, so I'll probably be clenching it a good amount. Any particular tips on caring for Cumberland well? I don't know anything about how the material compares to normal Vulcanite in terms of hardness, oxidization potential, durability, etc. The safe bet is of course to use a rubber bit, but if there's anything else to know about stem care I'd love to hear it. Thanks!

michaelmirza · Apr 21, 2016

Well this is embarrassing... you're right! I just went back and re-read the product description and it is indeed acrylic. I just assumed it was Cumberland because of my limited knowledge.

In that case... any tips on acrylic care? :mrgreen:

beefeater33 · Apr 21, 2016

That looks like one hell of a flake smoker!....... enjoy!......... :clap:

mso489 · Apr 21, 2016

Also, that pipe with its tall relatively narrow bowl would be a champ with Semois. Don't pack it down too tight. Better have a tall tamper. What a gorgeous pipe. I'm one of those who likes acrylic just fine, so no problem there.

shawnofthedead · Apr 22, 2016

I've read in several places that cumberland stems are made of vulcanite... Now I'm confused. Anyhow I own one Dunhill Chestnut with cumberland stem, of course I use a rubber bit on it.

ssjones · Apr 22, 2016

Dunhill started the Cumberland stem, and they were also known as "Brindle". They will oxidize, just not as quickly as black vulcanite. Mine get "dull" at the button end, but polish up nicely (same process as vulcanite)
That is a good looking Poker!

wcannoy · Apr 22, 2016

If I recall correctly, Dunhill first used "brindle" stems on their "Cumberland" stamped pipes. Nowadays, just as we have come to call all facial tissue "Kleenex", we tend to call all brindle stems "Cumberland". The original Cumberland stems were black and dark red, and this was the common material for a long time. In recent years, the manufacturers of the material have developed a wide range of color combinations.
Yes, Cumberland or Brindle stems are a mixture of two different colors of vulcanite, and you should care for them just the same as you would vulcanite.
The stem on the pipe above is certainly acrylic. If you plan on clenching, be cautious, acrylic is a little more brittle than vulcanite/ebonite and Cumberland. Be sure not to clench in the back of your jaw, between your molars. These teeth are designed for crushing food by brute force, and there's much more pressure exerted than you might think!

wcannoy · Apr 22, 2016

P.S.
Although, as the OP noted, the stem material on this pipe was correctly listed as acrylic, I have noticed a trend among new-ish pipemakers to incorrectly label any acrylic stem with multi-colored striations running though it "Cumberland", likely out of pure ignorance. If stem material is a big issue/deal breaker for you, make sure you educate yourself on the range of cumberland styles and colors. Some examples of many different stem materials can be found here: Vermont Freehand Rods

misterlowercase · Apr 22, 2016

Great info Walt!
It's interesting how Dunhill "owns" the term, neat stuff methinks, kinda like how we say "xerox" for photocopiers and the Brits always liked to say "hoover" for vacuum-cleaner.
Before the Cumberland finish came out, most collectors would usually call 'em "bowling ball bits"...
http://yeoldebriars.com/dunhill009.html
https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/estate/england/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=71906
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Chasing Embers · Apr 22, 2016

About half of my Weavers have cumberland stems, and I just give them a rub down with Obsidian Oil after each smoke and they are good to go. :wink:

cosmicfolklore · Apr 22, 2016

Yeh, brindle would be more correct, like a stripped patterned dog is a brindled dog. It used to drive me crazy when people refered to non-Dunhills as Cumberlands, but now I just quietly look down my noses at them. Ha ha. Like how here in Alabama, every soda is called a Coke, even Mountain Dew or 7up. Waitresses will ask you when you order which kind of "Coke" you want. If you think that sounds backwoods-ish or redneck, then that's how I feel when I hear "Cumberland." : puffy

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misterlowercase · Apr 22, 2016

I think brindle may be the term Ashton popularized,

I can't remember exactly if it was in prior use,

but yeah, I think "brindle" has a better ring to it too myself...
ps

I'm so glad that CoCola done won the war and we ain't callin' sodey waters Pepsi!
btw

that's my fave oldtimer term - "sodey water"

I love it when I hear folks still usin' that term

cosmicfolklore · Apr 22, 2016

...better than "pop"

michaelmirza · Apr 22, 2016

Walt, that's the exact info I was looking for! Unsurprisingly. Thank you!

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