Cob Collected Some "Gunk"

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May 9, 2018
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So my favorite cob, the MM Charles Towne Cobbler collected a little "gunk" last week. I never noticed until yesterday when I got ready to fill it and saw some pieces of black "gunk", for lack of a better term. I always wipe it out with a twisted up paper towel after I dump, so I was confused as to what it could have been. I hadn't smoked it in a few days, but when I saw it, I ran my finger inside and it was almost sticky. I was just surprised that after several days of resting, it was still sticky. So, I reamed it with my finger and got more of it. It wasn't just ash, but something more. I couldn't take it, so I did the best thing I could think of and I grabbed my knife that has a rounded point and carefully scraped away all the "gunk" I could see.
I don't typically lean one way or the other with it, so I smoke aros, English, Flake, just anything, pretty much in it, and it's done very well so far. The last thing I smoked in it was Lane 1Q, and that made me wonder if it was something I did wrong at some point, or can some aros really leave behind this burnt "gunk"?

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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I might suspect really goopy aromatic blends, but not 1Q or anything similar. I have the same MM cob, and though it has a dark finish on the cob, I don't see it making it through the wall into the chamber. It's pretty settled and dry. This is a mystery to be solved. Post again should you find the offending substance.

 
May 9, 2018
1,687
86
Raleigh, NC
I would suspect a goopy blend to do that as well, but I don't have any aros that are that goopy. I haven't even smoked CB in this thing, which to me would do it before any of my others. The only others I have smoked in it are Peterson's Connoisseur's Choice and a Boswell's Majestic 586. It almost felt like I had some honey mixed in with the ash and let it set, then got it warm again. I did leave it in my hot car the other day, so maybe that expelled something from the walls of the cob? Don't they apply something like honey inside the bowls of their cobs? I just don't know. I'm sticking with English blends in it for a little while exclusively for a bit now just to see if it's occurring with something other than an aro.

 

weezell

Lifer
Oct 12, 2011
13,653
49,165
It could just be a function of build up over time. After smoking a cob for a few bowls, take a pipe cleaner and double it up and run it through the shank into the bowl.You'd be surprised what crap you get out...

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
43,448
109,394
I always wipe out cobs and meers with unscented baby wipes. No remaining tobacco residue whatsoever.

 

lawdawg

Lifer
Aug 25, 2016
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The bottom of a cob pipe is not smooth, and there is a lot of area for gunk go accumulate. Even a dry-ish tobacco, if smoked hot, can cause moisture at the bottom of the bowl of any pipe. I use Czech tools when I smoke, and after smoking a cob, you can use the little metal rod on the Czech tool to dig out extra pieces of baccy down on the bottom of the bowl below the shank.
Also, cobs need rest. You can smoke em much harder than briars, but their absorbing ability is finite, and they'll eventually get sour. It might be the wood shank that needs rest more so than the cob material itself, but anyhow, they do benefit from a good break. Thats why I have so many of them, and usually keep a couple of new ones on hand as well :puffy:

 
May 9, 2018
1,687
86
Raleigh, NC
This gunk in particular wasn't in the shank, maybe some was in the bottom, but I don't typically try to pick it all clean as some of it has settled in on either sides of the shank that comes down into the bowl, so I son't mind that. What I was concerned with was the gunk collecting along the sides of the bowl. It wasn't even, like a cake might be. You could easily look inside and see these raised "bumps of gunk". I usually wipe it out with a clean paper towel once I'm done and after a few bowls with it, I'll take a pipe cleaner, double it over making a big loop that will press against the sides of the bowl and scrub it for a while. Sometimes I use 2, depends on how much ash I'm getting out of it. I try to take good care of it, so when this just appeared out of the blue it kind of shocked me a bit.
I haven't tried using baby wipes before. Do they still leave behind a residue at all, even if they have no smell?

 

lawdawg

Lifer
Aug 25, 2016
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3,803
After every couple of smokes in a cob, I fold up a paper towel, dab it with some 190 proof grain liquor, and stuff it down in the bowl and twist it around, almost like a light reaming. Combined with proper rest, that really freshens up and cleans a cob, and keeps it from forming a cake so it will retain its absorbing properties (disclaimer: some people like cakes in their cobs, some don't - It's personal preference)
I know that 190 proof liquor isn't available everywhere you might go, but even if it is not available in your area, my recommendation would be to find the nearest place where it is (even if hours away), and pick yourself up several bottles. I dip pipe cleaners in it to swab shanks, and I use it to wipe out bowls. It's the only "cleaner" I use for pipe cleaning, it works great, and one bottles lasts me a very long time, more than a year.
Another old trick I learned on this board, which I will do with particularly sour over-smoked cobs (after cleaning with alcohol and letting them dry out) is setting them out in the sun. For one reason or another, that seems to freshen them up quite a bit. I'm not sure of the causation (whether its the heat, the sunlight, or just good air circulation), but it works. Important to note: remove the plastic stem and do not set it in the sun. I've "sunned" cobs before with both plastic and acrylic stems left in, and the "tenon" sometimes will get warped so that it doesn't fit in the shank properly.

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
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109,394
Do they still leave behind a residue at all, even if they have no smell?
I've done that for years with no I'll effect. You can also use a wet paper towel.

 

prairiedruid

Lifer
Jun 30, 2015
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Every so often I use my pocket knife to lightly ream the chamber on my cobs if I notice the cake becoming soft.

 

aldecaker

Lifer
Feb 13, 2015
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You can even use an old butter knife if you don't trust yourself with sharp things in the bowl. But however you do it, get that soft stuff out of there. That's where nastiness resides, and after a while, you'll start to taste it.

 
May 9, 2018
1,687
86
Raleigh, NC
Yeah, that's what I did. My knife is sharp enough to cut paper, I keep them all honed pretty well, but I turn it so the blade scrapes backwards along the inside of the bowl so it won't ever dig in and actually cut it. I don't really want cake to build up at all, but a little char is fine. That was all it had until I discovered this.....unpleasantness just sitting along the walls.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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I wipe out all my pipes with a paper towel/napkin after scooping out the ash, don't build cake, and therefore don't ream. The carbon layer still does its job. I have quite a few pipes, so they dry out pretty well "resting." I've never run into any residue in my cobs, over years. So I still think this gunk has a distinct cause and is not a characteristic cob thing. Let us know if anything further surfaces on this phenomenon. It sounds different.

 
May 9, 2018
1,687
86
Raleigh, NC
Not that I know of. Never seen it collect on the sides of the bowl like that. Maybe in the bottom, sure, but I'm not worried about stuff at the bottom of the bowl. I routinely wipe out the bowl every time I finish one, so I just don't know where it came from.

 

sparroa

Lifer
Dec 8, 2010
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I don't have cake in my cobs per se because I also wipe out the pipe bowls but the walls can still acquire a tarry accumulation that becomes sticky with exposure to heat. I assume that's just the nature of the beast as we are combusting tobacco in them after all.
I'm not sure if what you are observing is the same thing that I have observed. Any chance of a picture?

 
May 9, 2018
1,687
86
Raleigh, NC
Likely next time, as I have already scraped it from my bowl. If it happens again, I will take a picture of it first before I scrape it out. You could be on to something, because as I stated above, I did leave it in my car a day before I saw it after a smoke on the way in to the office and I wiped it out as usual, but forgot to grab it when I got all my other stuff in the car. Wasn't until the next day that I noticed it as I was smoking a different cob. Could have been some tar that just got hot and bubbled up a bit and then that's when I noticed it.

 

phxrock

Can't Leave
Aug 18, 2014
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Rereading this thread these thoughts

came across.
First thought was it could be years that have settled around the shank overtime.

Thought number two, since you started you smoke Aros It could be the result of the chemicals that are used to carry the flavors are not burning off. Along with that the tobacco could be to wet.

 

newbroom

Lifer
Jul 11, 2014
6,133
6,846
Florida
I've got a Czech tool and also use an old style 'nut pick' to get to the dottle at the bottom of my cobs.

I develop some cake, and eventually use one of my reamers on 'em. Never had a problem using a reamer on my well broken in cobs. Dry cakes breaks off readily, and allows for moar baccy.

With the typically open draw of a filter cob w/o using a filter, it's easy to generate moisture via the combustion process, so, you keep that in mind as you smoke those.

The nut pick has a slight curved end that helps pick and pull.

 
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