Ok, I got the estate pipe off of ebay and its in really nice shape. Not a ton of cake so doesn't look like it was smoked very heavily. Here is the thing though, I'm trying to clean it and dirt just keeps coming out of it. Pipe cleaner after pipe cleaner and q-tip after q-tip. Doesn't seem to be getting much better either. Is there any trick it is or is it really going to take a whole box of q-tips to clean this thing.