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jpmcwjr

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Jaytex-
I am curious about the muzzle flash on this. Is it photoshopped? It seems like an excessive burn for these old canon, but I am not even close to expert.
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sasquatch

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Given that you have posted what appears to be a digital image... none of it is "real".
That said, if you've ever watched demos where they shoot muskets and that kind of thing, there's quite a bit of flash/spit at the muzzle, so I'd think a legit old cannon, loaded and fired for real, would make a hell of a lot of fire and smoke.
As an aside, being a "loose cannon" is a term derived from the tall-ship days, where a cannon come off its moors would be a highly dangerous and scary situation - they bucked pretty hard!

 

jpmcwjr

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Thank you. Loose cannons abound! Here's another take (thanks for correct spelling; been shooting Canons my whole life)
Frank Cannon is an overweight, balding ex-cop with a deep voice and expensive tastes in culinary pleasures; he becomes a high-priced private ...
Merci, Mon. Le Cortez. Je suis d'accord, mais pas sûr.

 

sumusfumus

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Old fashioned "black-powder" and the black powder substitutes, burn relatively slowly when compared to the burn-rates of modern smokeless powders/propellants. This kind of muzzle-flash is very possible, especially if the cannon was overloaded...why?.... the flash results when small amounts of unburned black-powder is ejected, and then, ignites just in front of the muzzle. The bright muzzle-flash, especially noticeable if the cannon is shot in the dark, is quite impressive, and spreads out a few feet in front of the muzzle, possibly even scorching grass, etc. directly under, and in front of the gun.
Frank

 

woodsroad

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^^^ What he said.
The same thing happens with modern pistols and rifles with smokeless powder, although the flash is of very short duration. Here's a Russian WWII era Mosin Nagant M44 carbine (7.62x54r, roughly equivalent to 30-'06):
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jaytex1969

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Sorry I'm late to the party.
The 3 images I rotate through were all sniped from Google searches. Unedited by me, except resizing, but who knows what was done before I got them.
I have an M44 Mosin, as well. You can roast weinies on the bayonet with that muzzle flash!
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tschiraldi

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I was in The Old Guard, the US Army's Official Escort to the President. As such, there were many 21 gun (cannon) salutes and I can tell you, real cannons loaded with real powder have one heck of a flash! Especially in low light, it is very impressive!

 
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Aaarrrrr: I'd be preferrin' the strumpet, thanks, and more aaaarrrrrrrrs.

Well, I be nah entirely certain which be th' more firey... th' strumpet or th' cannon. But they'll both blow ye down! Arrrr
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Parfait ala hubahuba les douche...
I believe it's: "sacs pour la douche". :mrgreen:
And yes, canons make a heck of noise, smoke and fire. But, like the picture up there demonstrates, the fire is partially concealed by the smoke.

 

woodsroad

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Thanks, John! I was trying unsuccessfully to post that from my phone....

That's from this week's re-enactment of The Battle of Brandywine.

 
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