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  1. bigballdbenny

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    K, ANSWER WITHOUT THINKIN' ABOUT IT!!!!! NAME YOUR TOP 5 SMOKES!!! GO!!!!!

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    F&T - Cut Virginia Plug
    Wessex - BCDF
    Escudo
    Esoterica - Penzance
    Hu Tobacco - Fayyum Kake

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    Briar Fox
    Peacehaven
    Veermaster
    LBF
    PS Cube Cut

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    Director's Cut
    Haddo's Delight
    Oriental #40
    Escudo
    HH Vintage Syrian

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    St. James Flake, Stonehaven, University Flake, Brown Flake and Old Dark Fired.

    Michael
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    Semois Tobac-Manil
    965
    Billy Budd
    McClellands Va Red Cake 5100
    Nat Sherman 536

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    Black Mallory rattray era perth tinned version
    Sobranie 759
    Blue Mountain
    Balkan Beauty
    Fvf

    Hobbyist Pipemaker - Carmette Pipes
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    CONDOR
    Dunhill NightCap
    Old Joe Krantz
    Carter Hall
    MacBaren Old Dark Flake

    "the weez"...
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    Red Ribbon
    Danish Delight
    St. Bruno
    FVF
    BCDF

    ask me next week. It will be different.

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    Yacht, 3Star Blue, Balkan Surprise, Brown Rope and . . . ah . . . Elizabethan.

    Did I get it right? Pass-fail test right?

    A man without a shillelagh is a man without an expedient.
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    H&H Anni Kake
    GL Pease Haddos Delight
    Escudo
    McClelland Christmas Cheer
    McClelland Blackwoods Flake

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    PS Luxury Twist Flake
    Newminster Superior Round Flake
    Brigham Klondike Gold
    Six Pence
    Bourbon Bleu

    List could change at a moments notice.

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    GL Pease Sextant
    C&D Black Frigate
    Peter Stokkebye English Oriental Supreme
    Peter Stokkebye Proper English
    Captain Black Red Sky

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    Gaslight
    Escudo
    Margate
    Dark Star
    Wessex - BCDF

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    Luxury Navy Flake
    Haddo's Delight
    Wilke Bestmake
    Escudo
    McConnell Scottish Cake

    (can't resist - runners up - Fillmore, Wilke No.10, Luxury Bullseye Flake, Cairo, Wilke No.5)

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    536, GLP Westminster, Old Dublin, LBF, EMP

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    McClelland 2015
    Sutliff's Breckenridge
    Sutliff's ERR Match
    Two Fiends Heritage
    4noggins Bald Headed Teacher

    Note: Subject to change

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  18. forest7

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    PS - LBF
    Gawith, Hoggarth & Co. - Bob's Chocolate Flake
    Cornell & Diehl - Old Joe Krantz
    Cornell & Diehl - Autumn Evening
    G. L. Pease - Quiet Nights

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    Escudo
    Lane Limited: 1Q
    Peter Stokkebye: Luxury Bullseye Flake
    Orlik: Golden Sliced
    Mac Baren: Modern Virginia

    "The thinking man always smokes a Peterson." -Peterson of Dublin
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    Rattray Red Rapparee
    Gawith FVF
    McConnell Oriental
    Dunhill Durbar
    McClelland Virginia No. 24

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    Stonehaven
    Aylesbury Lux Flake
    St. James Flake
    10 Russians
    Astley 44

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    Ten to Midnight x5

    Make aromatics great again.
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    My thoughts with approximate timing.

    Samuel Gawith St. James flake (.0005 seconds)
    Frosty Mint. (2 seconds)
    Star of the east. (Six seconds)
    Ennerdale. (Ten seconds)
    Orlik Golden Sliced. (fifteen seconds)

    Other blends also passed through my head, but usually not ones that I like (e.g. Peterson Irish Flake), and of course I can say Hermit Stimulus Package, SPC Mississippi River, Frog Morton's Cellar and Escudo now, but they lost the race.

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  24. jackswilling

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    Tudor Castle
    Old Gowrie
    Deception Pass
    Cooper
    Quiet Nights

    "Had his shooting been as good as his running, he might have given a better account of himself."
    James. C. Henderson
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  25. bigboi

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    University Flake
    H & H Classic Burly Kake
    Vanilla Cream Flake
    Haunted Bookshop
    Praire Wind

    “I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective judgement in all human affairs.”
    -Albert Einstein, 1950
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  26. bigballdbenny

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    Frog Morton's Cellar
    Mississippi River
    Spectre Pipe Tobacco
    Captain Black Dark
    Proper English

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    SG's Balkan Flake
    MacBaren Scottish Mixture
    GL Pease Cumberland
    McClelland Pebble Cut
    McClelland Anniversary

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  28. chasingembers

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    Black Frigate
    Balkan Sobranie
    Yenidje Highlander
    Pirate Kake
    Old Dark Fired

    Damnation seize my soul if I give you quarters, or take any from you.
    -Edward Teach
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  29. ckgdrums

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    MM Independence Day 2015
    1Q
    H&H Caramel Apple Pie
    Highland Whiskey
    Peterson Irish Flake

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    In no particular order

    Veermaster
    Irish Flake
    Balkan Sasieni
    Woodbridge
    Royal Yacht

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  31. voorhees

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    Dunhill 965
    Orlik GS
    Dunhill Flake
    Capstan Yellow
    Penzance

    and not in that order.

    Jason
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    Top of my head

    BBF
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    Everything else I need to force myself to smoke.

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    St Bruno (when I can get it, otherwise ODF)
    Bob's Chocolate Flake
    Ennerdale Flake
    Astley's #44
    H&H Anni. Kake

    Michael - Poulsb, WA

    Pipes are not like cars. A Chevy cannot drive like a Mercedes, but the lowly Stanwell can smoke like the lofty Chonowitsch, even though the latter far exceeds the Stanwell in beauty, grain, and craftsmanship. It is the briar and not the brand. There is no place for elitism among pipe smokers. - Fred Hanna
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    MM 965
    CH
    Chatham Manor
    Whiteknight
    ODF

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  35. gambit88

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    Navy flake
    Dunhill 965
    Frog morton cellar
    Archduke ferdinand
    Blue note

    In no particular order and can change at any time

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  36. doctorbob

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    Frog Morton cellar
    Arrowhead
    MM 965
    Cooper
    Virginia No. 1

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  37. brass

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    SG Luxury Navy Flake
    Magnum Opus
    GLP Quiet Nights
    Classic Burley Kake
    Stonehaven

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  38. dulgunz

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    Stonehaven
    Plum Pudding
    Solani Silver
    Orlik DSK
    Ten Russians

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    Capstan Blue Flake
    5100 Red Cake
    Escudo
    Steak Sauce (50% Red Cake/ 50% Perique)
    PS Navy Flake

    "Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong." - Corinthians 16:13
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  40. wyfbane

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    Plum Pudding
    Escudo
    ODF
    Black Truffle
    Devil's Holiday

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  41. calabashed

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    Escudo
    Balkan Sobranie (new release)
    Dunhill 965
    Dunhill Nightcap
    Frog Morton Cellar

    Posted 4 years ago #
  42. shaneireland

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    Escudo
    C&D Oak Alley
    McConnell's Scottish Flake
    Mac Baren Burley London
    Solani 660 Silver flake

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  43. gloucesterman

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    GLP
    Abingdon
    Piccadilly
    Sextant
    Blackpoint
    Dark Strong Kentucky

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    Royal Yacht
    FVF
    Stonehaven
    Escudo
    Hal O The Wynd

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  45. delkhouri

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    McCranie’s Red Ribbon
    Rattray’s Marlin Flake
    Butera - Royal Vintage - Dark Stoved
    4th Generation 1931
    Reiner Professional MIxture

    "I believe that many who find that 'nothing happens' when they sit down, or kneel down, to a book of devotion, would find that the heart sings unbidden while they are working their way through a tough bit of theology with a pipe in their teeth and a pencil in their hand"
    ~ C.S. Lewis
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    GLP Westminster
    Smoker's Haven Exotique
    Gaslight
    Plum Pudding
    McConnell's Original Oriental

    "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dream..."
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  47. crusher47

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    Dunhill Elizabethan Mixture
    H&H Blackhouse
    H&H Larry's Blend
    Squadron Leader
    Dunhill MM965

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  48. robwoodall

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    Frog Morton (original)
    Dunhill MM 965
    Pirate Kake
    Lane BCA and
    Sutliff Vanilla Custard

    In no particular order

    Posted 4 years ago #
  49. phil67

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    07/08/2015

    Certainly not in this order:

    Dunhill 965
    Escudo
    University Flake
    Squadron Leader
    Bald Headed Teacher

    07/09/2015

    Dunhill 965
    Haddo’s Delight
    EMP
    Latakia Flake
    Frog Morton Cellar

    07/10/2015

    Dunhill 965
    Two Friends English Chocolate
    HH Old Dark Fired
    Dunhill Royal Yacht
    Gaslight

    07/11/2015

    Ask me on the 11th as I can't think that far ahead.

    See the pattern here? Ask this same question, which has already been asked on this site ad nauseum before, albeit always asked in a different way a month from now and you’ll more likely than not get different answers from the very same people. But, many seem to enjoy the same question, no matter how it’s worded, with their favorite tobaccos (this week, and or month).

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  50. gr8scott

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    Brigham Klondike Gold
    Frog Morton Cellar
    Dunhill Deluxe Navy Rolls
    Astleys 109
    Dunhill Flake

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  51. lostandfound

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    Dunhill Flake
    Old Dark Fired
    Dark Strong Flake
    Luxury Navy Flake
    Cut Virginia Plug

    Jerod
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    Phil,

    Many of the threads you mentioned do differ, by varying degrees. I.E. "Favorite flake tobacco", "Favorite Virginia tobacco", etc, etc. Some even ask for our top 10 favorites! Whatever the case may be, we do indeed enjoy responding to these threads.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  53. scrooge

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    Half and Half
    Carter Hall
    Granger
    Prince Albert
    five brothers

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    In the spirit of phil67's response, whatever I'm smokin' lately:

      Brigham Hudson's Bay
      Brigham Acadian Blend
      Mac Baren HH Acadian Perique
      GL Pease Triple Play
      Savinelli Doblone d'Oro
    ... but it'll change in a week or so

    I find myself sitting idly on the line dividing past and future,
    as if I could kill time without injuring eternity. -- Thoreau
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  55. jarit

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    FIVE BOWLS OF FVF!

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  56. broth

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    Penzance
    Escudo
    Dunhill Flake
    Squadron Leader
    Christmas Cheer

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  57. fishfly

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    Newminster English Luxus (#17)
    Balken Sasieni
    Lancer Slices
    Gaslight
    Escudo

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  58. foggymountain

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    I am down to two favorites. Bombay Court and Stokkebye's English Oriental. I do have lots of lat mixes that I will not touch until they age more.

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    C&D Autumn Evening
    GL Pease Quiet Nights
    Penzance
    S G Squadron Leader
    C&D Montford Point Marine

    A smart man learns from the mistakes of others.
    A wise man learns from his own.
    ---Anonymous
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    Forty Two...wait, what?!?!

    Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
    -C. S. Lewis, English essayist & juvenile novelist (1898 - 1963)
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  61. jcsoldit

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    St James Flake
    Hal O' The Wynd
    Marlin Flake
    Park-Lane Red Paramour
    Bob's Chocolate Flake

    As an example to others, and not that I care for moderation myself, it has always been my rule never to smoke when asleep, and never to refrain from smoking when awake.
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  62. zenistar

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    Frog Morton's Cellar
    Orlik Golden Sliced
    Capstan Blue
    SG Chocolate Flake
    MacBaren Dark Twist

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    Capstan
    Veermaster
    FVF
    Hu Sunset
    Elizabethan mix

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    Comoy's Cask 11
    Pirate Kake
    Crown Achievement

    Don't have wide enough experience to add two more, though I can throw in some Latakia to dress up most anything!

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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  65. schaum

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    BBF
    Stormfront
    Boswells "Dans Blend"
    McClelland mature flake 2000
    C&D Opening night

    Posted 4 years ago #
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    Nightcap
    Star of the East
    Potlatch
    SH Exotique
    Ashton Artisan's Blend

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    Round 2.

    St. James Flake.
    Frosty Mint.
    Star of the East.
    Captain Earle's Stimulus Package.
    Sutliff Elizabethan Match.

    Poor Escudo left out again.

    My top three are pretty consistent though.

    Posted 4 years ago #
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    Escudo
    Bayou Morning
    Haunted Bookshop
    McClelland 5110
    Firestorm

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  69. rigmedic1

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    Marlin Flake
    PS Luxury Twist Flake
    Squadron Leader
    HH Acadian Perique
    Solani 131 Red Label

    Posted 4 years ago #
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    1. 965 2. Mid Day 3. Topsoil 4. Gettysburg 5. Royal Slices

    I Am what I Am
    Posted 1 year ago #

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