Am I Missing Out?

easterntraveler

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Dec 29, 2012

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• Sep 17, 2015

• #1

So I have gotten pretty efficient smoking my pipes. I generally rub out my flakes and have no issues. However if I try the fold and stuff method I go through a lighter along with a box of matches to keep that thing lit. What is the deal? Doesn't matter how dry I get the baccy. Am I really missing out on that much flavor that I should keep trying this method?

 

mcitinner1

Lifer

Apr 5, 2014

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24

Missouri

• Sep 17, 2015

• #2

I gave up on fold and stuff pretty quickly for the same reason. May try again since it's been awhile. I rub out flakes mostly.

 

easterntraveler

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Dec 29, 2012

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• Sep 17, 2015

• #3

I just don't get it. Looks so damn simple.

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate

Nov 12, 2014

43,450

109,397

• Sep 17, 2015

• #4

I just cube cut them. Slow burning, and very flavorful.

 

edgreen

Lifer

Aug 28, 2013

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15

• Sep 17, 2015

• #5

I use fold and stuff on Orlik Golden, FVF, Macbaren Latakia Flake,etc. but rub out Escudo and some others. My fold and stuff uses a twist on the second fold and I've found that works gloriously, breaking up the flake just enough to ignite.

 

elbert

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Mar 10, 2015

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• Sep 17, 2015

• #6

I almost think I should start buying ready rubbed when available, because that's all I ever do. Couldn't get the fold and stuff down myself.

 

weezell

Lifer

Oct 12, 2011

13,653

49,165

• Sep 17, 2015

• #7

So many things play in to fold and stuff! Size of bowl, dryness of flake, how much compression or how little. I generally have good luck with it(Generally LOL). Gut determination BROTHER... :wink:

 

voorhees

Lifer

May 30, 2012

3,834

939

Gonadistan

• Sep 17, 2015

• #8

Fold and stuff is my favorite method. A few lights are needed, but no big deal.

 

gloucesterman

Lifer

Jan 4, 2015

1,858

11

Massachusetts

• Sep 17, 2015

• #9

I usually rub them out for he same reason. Fold and stuff seemed like a never ending relight even when I dried it out and used the scraps as kindling.

 

jkrug

Lifer

Jan 23, 2015

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8

• Sep 17, 2015

• #10

I don't have much luck with the fold and stuff method either. I usually rub it out but have taken to cube cutting the flakes lately and have had pretty good success with this method. I do notice a bit more (better?) flavour when using the cube cut method. ::

 

derfatdutchman

Lifer

Jun 4, 2014

1,134

1

• Sep 17, 2015

• #11

Ive never gotten good results with the fold and stuff method either. I also like the cube cutting method.

 

lordofthepiperings

Lifer

May 3, 2010

6,443

1,498

Las Vegas, NV

• Sep 17, 2015

• #12

I use a trick I learned from DubInTheDam's YouTube channel. He folds it then he breaks up the bottom a bit with his other had and loosens it up before packing it. That way it has more airflow and will stay lit better. That method has worked like a charm for me.
Never tried cube cutting. Far too much work for me.

 

easterntraveler

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Dec 29, 2012

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• Sep 17, 2015

• #13

Agree cube cutting does seem like a lot of work.
but question I have is does fold and stuff highten the flavor that much that I should keep messing with it?

 

mcitinner1

Lifer

Apr 5, 2014

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Missouri

• Sep 17, 2015

• #14

Cube cutting is easy if you use scissors to cut across a flake.

 

cortezattic

Lifer

Nov 19, 2009

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7,638

Chicago, IL

• Sep 18, 2015

• #15

does fold and stuff highten (sic) the flavor that much that I should keep messing with it?

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Per Jensen of Mac Baren says that folding and stuffing produces better flavor. I believe that Russ Ouellette asserts rubbing out a flake will produce better flavor because of the additional air involved in the burn.
So, even the experts can disagree. We'll all just have to try it both ways and make a personal decision.

 

easterntraveler

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Dec 29, 2012

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• Sep 18, 2015

• #16

You know when experts disagree generally means there is a middle ground of sorts and they just refuse to admit they might be wrong. Good this is this answers my question. Tha ks.

 

fnord

Lifer

Dec 28, 2011

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Topeka, KS

• Sep 18, 2015

• #17

Bingo!
You got your answer, ET.
Whatever works for you, works for you.
Fnord

 

danielplainview

Lifer

Mar 30, 2014

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wv

• Sep 18, 2015

• #18

Try fold and stuff with a bit of cube cut on top. Its works like fire starter briquettes.

 

brass

Lifer

Jun 4, 2014

1,840

7

United States

• Sep 18, 2015

• #19

I usually just stuff the flake in the pipe lengthwise and compress. I'll sometimes use the pick from a pipe tool and poke several air holes, top to bottom, if the draw is a bit tight. If the baccy it too moist, nothing will work except relighting. My 2 cents. Pax

 

E

ember

Starting to Get Obsessed

Sep 8, 2014

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• Sep 18, 2015

• #20

I pretty much do the same as Pax but I don't really compress at all if there is tobacco sticking out I either snip it off or char it down

I do 3 char light and tamp with matches to make a nice cookie. Then the 4th light I do with a Zippo them I'm off and smoking